Blades for server applications make a lot of sense.But I still question the roi 
of using pc blades for a terminal environment especially for windows that are 
x86 dependent. The big gains for server blades are from a AMD Athalon64 or 
IBM's PowerPC blades. IBM is also developing Power4 and Power5 blade as well.  
Mercury computing 
(http://news.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=/0-0&fp=435f105feae9b331&ei=GThfQ9j7KqKs6AGU_IHVDQ&url=http%3A//informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml%3FarticleID%3D171203598&cid)
 is developing a cell processor blade for IBM as well.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Main Discussion List for KPLUG" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: PC blades
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 21:27:32 -0700

> 
> On Oct 25, 2005, at 9:08 PM, Randall Shimizu wrote:
> 
> > So the question then becomes is the blade the right  platform 
> > ....??? After all 10-20 not all that much. Would not a  large SMP 
> > machine be much more suitable.....?? Now of course  scalability 
> > is entirely different for Linux and Window, but does  raise some 
> > interesting roi questions....
> 
> Well, you have to remember, too, that the original design of these  
> "client" blades was that you'd have one per desktop on the office  
> floor.  The important bits were on the blade, in the server room, 
> to  simplify maintenance.  So, one user per blade.
> 
> Now, if you're talking anywhere from 10-20 users per blade, that's 
> a  significant savings you can realize (if it's really workable.)

IBM's implementation is different, they are not replacing the PC. IBM will 
virtualize the desktop environment on the blade.

> The nice thing about blades v. a single large server for hosting  
> these kinds of users is scalability.  Need 10 more users, but your  
> large SMP box is maxed out?  Yup, time to purchase a second massive 
>   server, possibly purchasing another 200-user capacity (at a 
> 200-user  price point) for 10 more users.  With the blade solution, 
> you just  slam in another blade (or, worst case, buy another blade 
> chassis and  toss a single blade in it).  Much cheaper to scale per 
> user, and much  more flexible, too.
> 
> What if you primarily have Windows (or Linux) users, but need a 
> small  percentage of Linux (or Windows) desktops to support some  
> application?  Big SMP systems as hosts mean you are out of luck  
> unless you have another large system you can re-purpose.  Blades 
> let  you add that capacity as you need it.
> 
> Blade systems, in conjunction with the latest VMWare clustering  
> solutions and even Xen/Linux clusters, can be made in to extremely  
> powerful, flexible computing resources for applications which are 
> not  CPU-bound.  I.e., 90% of all office computer work.
> 
> Gregory
> 
> -- Gregory K. Ruiz-Ade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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