Richard Reynolds said: begin > > I dont post often but ive been a moderate linux user/admin/programmer > for > a while now, both professionally and just for fun. Ive seen this topic > come up before, it just interests me
I use Linux every day, all day, and have for years. I use Windows from VNC, for the few vertical applications that are Windows only. The only dual-boot I have is my laptop, and I rarely boot into W2K except on the rare occassion I need to. > On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Neil Schneider wrote: >> Richard Reynolds said: <snip> >> Ask the printer manufactuerers why their printers aren't supported. >> Did you check http://www.linuxprinting.org ? If the manufacturers >> refuse to provide hardware information to Linux developers it's not >> the fault of Linux it's the fault of the manufacturer. > > Though i Guess I could have listed the printers by models, however as > I > wasnt really trying to solicit help, and the point was more that > there are still technical reasons linux is not as reay as it could be > for the desktop. Linux didn't exist when 2 of my un-supported printers > were designed ... so NOPE didnt ask about those, however in plain old > DOS(no fancy drivers or anything) I can make them print. linux they > print garbage, or in the wrong mode. the canon printers I knew when I > bought them they were unsupported, im OK ish with that as one is > hooked > up to a linux box and CUPS prints thru the windows driver to the > printer > (acting as a mini server and print spooler for the slower printer), > when > it comes to large inkjet printers, HP was it, so as far as I am > concerned > they made the standard and we linux users have not Jumped in line. I have a very large HP color inkjet that works just fine in Linux, but it's Postscript. I mostly seek out postscript printers because they mostly just work. > <snip> > No and its an HP, but even then sometimes the hacking is just a simple > matter of assigning one of the *magic* keys to an action, not a big > deal, > but sometimes it just doesnt work, on top of that the same scancodes > for the volume on this recently purchased laptop are the EXACT same > ones > as a keyboard thats at least a year old now so why didnt It just > work??? (not looking for a technical response, but responding to the > topic) and at least I have not figured out how to make my X-windows > hybernate (that is to save everything exactly like i had it, and > restore > when linux boots) Each laptop is different. On my IBM apm -s will make it sleep. Saving state is a little trickier, but there is a Linux solution for that too. <snip> > for plain and simple stuff and smaller stuff OO in linux works fine. > add > some vb macros and OO in windows works, try those in linux, and it > just > depends, and ive been a bad programmer and not cared to figure out > why. I > can not however get a 175mb plain old excel (no vba, macros ....) to > load, > export to CSV and its a wiz, but it means windows first. I don't begin to comprehend putting programs inside of spreadsheets, but I'm not surprised the vb stuff doesn't work in Linux. VB is an abomination to begin with, and you have to really want it to even have a basic interpreter on a Linux system. >> Access is a database, not a very good one, but a database >> nonetheless. >> We have a ton of different databases that work in Linux. We don't >> have >> access for Linux. > I dont need access for linux, I need a database that works with access > data files, (changed the wording but that is what I meant) but I know > how > to make several other databases work so a converter would work if > thats > what I had to do. again if I choose to I can export from access but I > sure > cant expect a client to. and then I get the fun and joy of figuring > out > how to get it back into access. I'm not that familiar with Access, but if it's anything like other Microsoft software, one version won't work with another version, so why would anyone expect it to work with Linux. I actually had occassion to experience this first hand recently. I was reinstalling Windows on a system that had gotten so out of wack that it required a reinstall to fix it. I carefully saved all the data files to the (SAMBA) fileserver and dumped Outlook data into a .pst file. After the reinstall I went to import the .pst file and it wouldn't read it. It turns out that the computer had Office 2003 originally installed and the customer gave me Office 2000 to reinstall. Why in the world would Microsoft change the file format for Outlook from one to the next version? Oh, that's right, it's a marketing decision, not a technical decision. <snip> > > I gave up on no html, and for some non work *fun* stuff its kinda cool > to > have fancy stuff in my emails, I have a cool background with a pink > ribbon > that I have been using for a while now.... but not to lists, and not > to > work. > I like to remove the top <html> tags when responding. Then the correspondant gets to see all the crud they sent me. I typically delete the html attachment that gets sent, which is a duplicate of the text, adding nothing to the content. HTML is for the web, email is intended to be plain text. HTML adds nothing whatsoever to email. <snip> > I am talking data recovery, not undelete, also I have on several > ocasions > undeleted from ext2 but from in windows (what a JOKE) im also talking > reading whats on a drive even though the OS cant. I've seen Jim Sack do some pretty interesting things with binary editors in Linux, so the tools are there, I just don't know much of anything about them. NTFS is a different kettle of fish. It's only recently been supported by Linux and I'm not even sure it's safe to write to NTFS from Linux yet. <snip> > at no point did I say I was happy with outlook/exchange. however If I > must > connect to exchange (which i often do), tons of choices on MUA's but > no > great choice, its not always about how many to choose from. there are > tons > of choices for windows also, yet I use the M$ ones. You didn't specifically mention Exchange before. Exchange is a non-standard email/calendar/kitchen sink server, that works only barely. It's prone to catastophic unrecoverable failures and talks its own proprietary protocol. I've set up Linux servers that can emulate Exchange, without the catastophic failure mode, but they speak standard imap/pop protocols instead of the Micosoft mapi protocol. <snip> > I am not remembering display off the top of my head, acdsee is more of > a show me the files along with image info (dimentions colordepth), > show > the image and index some things so i can search fast and let me > move/copy/rename them, though there are some basic editing, I like > and use Gimp also. XV does all you describe about acdsee. <snipo> > maybe however remember desktop world and any other category you want > to > put those that are using linux now world are different, if you want to > compare notes thats fine, but lets face it windows succeeds because > applications work ok ish, as much as something with a warning label > and a > scary EULA can and the user is ok ish with that, even if that > 175mb excel file should *NEVER* have been put into excel to begin with > to > really push the sanity of that one its only about 22mb of data :) but > it > grows > and changes and I have to cope with it :( Windows succeeds because it has the best marketing and the best advertising, and it gives away copies of it's software to CEOs, CFOs and CTOs. When people lower down the corporate ladder suddenly can't read the boss' documents/email/spreadsheets/powerpoint the upgrade cycle begins again with a furor. I think Linux advocates get it wrong on this count. They should be "selling" to the top of the corporate food chain. Then all the minions would fall in line. :-) -- Neil Schneider pacneil_at_linuxgeek_dot_net http://www.paccomp.com Key fingerprint = 67F0 E493 FCC0 0A8C 769B 8209 32D7 1DB1 8460 C47D Secrecy, being an instrument of conspiracy, ought never to be the system of a regular government. - Jeremy Bentham, jurist and philosopher (1748-1832) -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
