begin quoting Tracy R Reed as of Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 04:52:05PM -0800: > Christian Seberino wrote: > > It is weird that Linux world has not embraced an IDE and still > > uses Emacs and Vim. > > I don't think it is weird at all. I think it is weird that the rest of > the world has embraced IDE's.
IDEs are used for the same reasons that GUIs environments are preferred over CLI environments. In some cases, they simplify work, and in other cases, they hide the fact that you don't know what you're doing. > One of the greatest lessons learned from > Unix is that you use a number of small tools all communicating via > standard means (pipes, sockets, etc) to accomplish things in a flexible > and powerful way instead of building one giant tool to do everything. Thus the emphasis on "plugins". Even the makers of IDEs are (re)learning the important lessons... you can't think of everything at the start, so you'd better offer some way to solve the problems you haven't yet looked at. [snip] > How long have emacs and vim been around? Why do you think they have been > around that long? Because they are good, that's why. Because they *change*. And there's more in the basic package than you're likely to need, but there's not so much that you don't need that you're bogged down. (Well, emacs fails on this last count...) > Many other IDE's > have come and gone but I don't know anyone still using the same > proprietary IDE they used 10 years ago. Since Eclipse is FOSS it might > have longer legs. The Smalltalk IDE goes back to at LEAST 1980, and that was after some refinement. The environment dates back to what, 1976 or something? [snip] > to learning it. But I really like the idea of an extensible editor. Do > you remap your caps-lock key? It seems to be a requirement to using > emacs without going insane. Nah, I hardly ever hit it, with it being down there next to the ALT key. -Stewart "To me, Emacs looks like a text-mode IDE, not an editor." Stremler -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
