On Tue, November 21, 2006 5:37 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> > Chris
>>
>> Have you described one? I've been in and out of this thread, but most of
>> the alternatives I've seen here are pie-in-the-sky "everything will be
>> OK
>> if we just let nature take its course" Marxist wet dreams. You can only
>> believe they'll be better by ignoring human nature and history both.
>
> I respect your comments.  How about taking our examples from open source
> world?
> This isn't exactly what a post-copyright world would be like but it may be
> close enough for our purposes.  Also, these are real business models and
> not
> 'pie-in-the-sky Marxist web dreams' to use your terminology...
>
> ==============================================
> "Give Away the Recipe, Open A Restaurant" -
> ==============================================
> Give away creations and sell
> related 'services' like what Red Hat does.  Furthermore, rock bands could
> promote their concerts by sharing their music over the Internet like the
> Grateful Dead.  I heard many other bands are doing that now.  There is
> even
> a name for bands that mimic what Grateful Dead did but I can't remember
> what it
> is.
>
> ==============================================
> "Linux/OSDL" -
> ==============================================
> Be such a good artist/developer/writer/musician that your 'fans'
> will pay you $$ to keep
> creating.  This is what Linus T. is doing at the company funded Open
> Source
> Development Labs.
>
> ==============================================
> "JoelOnSoftware/O'Reilly" -
> ==============================================
> Developer/authors could distribute
> writings/code/music for free over the
> Internet and *still* sell dead tree books.  Lack of copyright would not
> mean
> I could walk into a book store and take any book I wanted!
>

These are alternatves that depend on copyritht (as noted by others) and
that often fufill other goals than monetary support of the creators.

Look, I want to see copyright and patent reformed. They're awful. But the
abuses are in the implementation, not the idea.

But if copyright is abolished, then singers, writers, actors, musicians
will all become the lowest form of wage slaves and the profits reaped by
non-creators will be even MORE obscene. And I say this with some
confidence because that's the way it was before copyright. There is no
reason to believe that human beings have improved in some way over the
years.

-- 
Lan Barnes

Tcl/Tk Enthusiast        SCM Analyst
Linux Guy                Biodiesel Brewer


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