On Fri, December 8, 2006 7:44 pm, Andrew Lentvorski wrote: > Lan Barnes wrote: >> ... which your loving government opened up green cards to foreign >> programmers (and nurses). It would never do for the corporations to face >> a >> real labor market. > > Um, personally, I have no problem with competing against green card > workers. Since they can move like normal workers they don't bring down > salaries. > > The problem I have is H1-B's.
I believe I said green card when I meant H1-B. Trust this list to keep me right. > > H1-B's are a 5 year indentured servitude. Companies *do* use those to > artificially depress salaries. H1-B's should automatically convert to > green cards in 12 months unless the company fires the person or the > background check turns something up. > Exactly! Some of the best people I ever worked with were out of country. I have no problem with someone moving here to make a better life, whether permanently or for a period, sending money back home. This is true whether the person is a C++ guru or a bus boy or an okra picker. I applaud people who have the guts to do that within or outside the law (because these laws are artificial barriers that care not whether someone's baby is hungry). If it were up to me, there would be no borders ... not like there are now. Don't call that crazy idealism, there are no borders between Ohio and Indiana and never have been, and there are no borders between France and Spain, which used to be. So what I'm pissing about is the sheer hypocracy (and racism) of hounding the okra picker as a criminal (while canning or cooking the okra), and importing nurses and computer programmers because corporate moguls (and campaign contributers) whine that there is a deficiency in domestic talent (read "they want to be paid too much"). It's another example of where "free markets" are anything but, and Americans are demigoged into voting against their own best interests (which may well be to get that talent in the country). Parenthetically, there's a frequent charge that liberals hate America. I love my country; I get pissed when it doesn't live up to its promise. But that's off topic. -- Lan Barnes SCM Analyst Linux Guy Tcl/Tk Enthusiast Biodiesel Brewer -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
