On Fri, March 23, 2007 7:16 pm, Stewart Stremler wrote:
> begin  quoting Paul G. Allen as of Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 05:40:15PM -0700:
>> On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 19:27 -0500, Todd Walton wrote:
>> > On 3/23/07, Paul G. Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Due process must be followed and I must be notified of ANY search
>> > > before the fact, not after!
>
> I don't think due process requires that.
>
>

IANAL, but here's my impression. Precedent has ruled that the bill of
rights applies to what the government can do only. The gvmn can't, for
example, read your email (well, they're not supposed to), drug test you,
etc without probable cause. Your work can.

This is a gaping loophole, and if I had been present at the founding, I
would have insisted that this be explicitly stated ... that the rights
under the Constitution are universal within our borders (citizens and
non-citizens) and by our government and all domestic entities (no
exceptions for prisons in, say, Cuba, or for Blackwater, the Boy Scouts,
the WCTU ...). But as it stands, it's been used by the gvmt to get private
enterprise to enforce illegal gvmt initiateves, like Nixon getting
industry to drug test everybody and the current crop using credit bureaus
to illegally snoop in our lives.

Sooo ... and again, IANAL ... don't count on constitutional clauses to
protect you from a corporation. The only protection we have there is
contract and tort law, and the latter is a constant target for weakening
as they fan the flames of their perennial campaigns against "tassle-loafer
lawyers" and "scalding coffee millionaires."

Face it guys, they hate us. We're nothing to them but a source of their
obscene incomes and a pool of timorous wage slaves.

I think I'll BCC my lawyer aquaintances and see if I'm in error on this.

-- 
Lan Barnes

SCM Analyst              Linux Guy
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