On Sun, March 25, 2007 7:40 pm, Christian Seberino wrote:
>
> On Sun, March 25, 2007 1:12 pm, Lan Barnes wrote:
>> Nobody is trying to stamp out religion in politics, prayer in school, or
>> any other religious freedom.
>
> How I wish that were true.  You do realize that school prayer has been
> illegal for decades?

Prayer is NOT illegal anywhere. FORCED prayer is in government funded
institutions. Can't you discern the difference?

>
>>> Even your beloved Jefferson mentioned God in his Declaration Of
>>> Independence.
>>
>> Jefferson was a self-declared deist,
>
> So what? And deist != atheist.

It's not as far away from it as you might think. deist ~= agnostic

>
>>> And, Washington in his Farewell Address said:
>>>
>>> "Of all the habits and dispositions which lead to political prosperity,
>> religion and morality are indispensable supports."
>>>
>>
>>>From Wikipedia:
> ...
>
> Well a person's beliefs can be a complex subject.  I think we would at
> least both agree neither Jefferson nor Washington were atheists right?
>
>> but people who want
>> to argue that this country was FOUNDED as a christian nation really
>> don't
>> have a whole hell of a lot to back them up. Sure, there were christians
>> on
>> the job, and the culture of the founders came mostly from christian
>> Europe, but they left lots of explicit statements that a christian
>> nation
>> was NOT their intent.
>
> They didn't want to *force* people to believe in Christianity but the vast
> majority would certainly be happy if more people followed the teachings of
> Christianity....be honest, help your neighbor, be faithful to your wife,
> etc.

Why do you think that? Sexually repressed, superstitious, denying the
evidence of the senses and conclusions of reason? This is better for
everybody?

Not me, thanks.

-- 
Lan Barnes

SCM Analyst              Linux Guy
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