begin quoting Andrew Lentvorski as of Wed, Jun 27, 2007 at 02:54:28PM -0700: > Stewart Stremler wrote: > >I was fortunate. I had a different path: PRIMOS->Amiga->UNIX -- but this > >means that I suffer more than most on "modern" Linux environments (and > >why I react so poorly so some of the new features). > > Yeah, that persecution complex you need in order to be an Amiga user > takes a long time to shake off. <ducks>
But I got involved with Linux in, oh, 1993, which meant that I managed to get a whole new persecution complex layered on top of the old... :) It's one of the reasons I get annoyed at the "we're great ya'll suck" cheerleading that goes on in the Linux world. I've seen how that sort of thing just alienates potential allies. > I went from: > Basic->6809 Assembly->OS 9->VMS->Solaris->Mac->Win->Linux->Mac (OS X) Well, I spent time in BASIC, but that didn't really do much to form my ideas about how computers _should_ work. And my diversion to the M$ world was AFTER I had gotten to UNIX (SunOS, IIRC). > Having to move from what clearly qualify as OS's (OS 9, VMS, Solaris) > back to Mac and Win in the 1990-1994 timeframe sucked bad. > > Fortnately, by 1995, Linux and FreeBSD were starting to run on hardware > that mere mortals could actually buy and use and enabled me to move back > off of the crummy machines. 1993/94, wasn't it? My first linux machine was a 386 with 5MB of RAM. Then again, I mostly ran it in console mode, as X just sucked (but then, so did OS/2 2.x on that machine). > However, Amiga people seem to have far too much nostalgia and not enough > clear vision. The Amiga had a couple of good features completely ruined > by being surrounded by a lot of crap. Hm... what crap? It was a single-user machine with fewer WTF moments than just about anything else. The biggest WTF concept was the clever idea of autorunning the bootblock when one inserted a floppy disk... dumb, dumb, dumb, so of course M$ copied that feature for CDs. . . Most of the rest of the problems the system had was the C= spent time and money cost-reducing the machine (to maximize profits, rather than for selling it cheaper) instead of taking advantage of improvements... Hm... I think as of this year my Blade 100 finally beat the Amiga 1000 as my "primary machine for the longest continuous time". -- It's amazing how companies will piss away a loyal userbase. Stewart Stremler -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
