On Tue Oct  2  7:47 , Stewart Stremler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

>begin  quoting Ralph Shumaker as of Mon, Oct 01, 2007 at 11:54:54PM -0700:
>> My friend's PC insisted on root password for maintenance when booting up 
>> (or press a key to continue).  Fortunately, my friend sometimes pays 
>> attention to warnings.
>> 
>> I supplied root password.
>> mount worked.
>> df did not.
>> man fsck did not work.
>
>Probably 'cuz your manpages are in /usr/man, and /usr wasn't mounted.

Good point.  Thanks.

>[snip]
>> She uses it mainly for internet and printing.  And it is running 
>> noticeably slower with fc7 than it was with fc4.  I think (like mine) it 
>
>The same thing happened with my Alphas -- the upgrades from rh4 to rh7
>resulted in increasingly unusable performance, and the "old versions"
>were not supported. Eventually, I ended up with a choice: self-support
>(time consuming), stick with the old (security nightmare), or go with
>the new (paperweights).
>
>This is the point when I bailed on RedHat, and started referring to 'em
>as the "Microsoft of the Linux community":  You're on a hardware upgrade
>path, get used to it.

What are nimble alternatives?  I'll probably load the same onto mine.

>
>> is hitting swap.  What are the names of the window managers that take 
>> very little overhead?
>
>TWM and AmiWM come to mind, but they're also very basic.
>
>I think ctwm, fvwm, and fvwm2 are all comparitively lightweight.
>
>I don't know how lightweight WindowMaker is.
>
>Gnome/KDE are probably the first big things you can do in the GUI to
>reduce your memory footprint.
>
>> I'm probably going to get a newer PC for myself.  But she doesn't care 
>> about the PC much beyond surfing the internet and probably won't want to 
>> spend the money.  She probably won't hesitate to spend it if I make the 
>> case for it.  But for her needs, just reducing the overhead will 
>> probably suffice.
> 
>So if you put it in kiosk mode, she'd be fine? :)

Probably.  But I have no idea how to do that.

>
>-- 
>As I recall, fvmw2 was quite configurable, if needing a lot of noodling.
>Stewart Stremler

Thanks.

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