DJA wrote:
> [Replying to Gus only to grab the text described in my question.]
> 
> Gus Wirth wrote:
>> N�stor wrote:
> 
> I don't know if anyone else will see this as I see it, but the name
> above shows as "N,stor" in my email (Thunderbird). I assume that it
> should be "N'stor"?
> 
> I see this quite often, although not consistently (or at least I have
> not detected a pattern) in emails I receive. What causes the apparent
> substitution of a "," for a "'"? The language setting on MTB is
> (Unicode) UTF-8.
> 


His name has an e-acute for the second letter. It shows fine in my
thunderbird. Normal t'bird behavion (I believe) is to reply with utf_8
encoding if quoted text contains any non-ascii. N's original email in
this thread arrived as
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I guess gmail is what determines that format and header lines.

Now when Gus replied, his email arrived as
  User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080501)
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Other things seen from-time-to-time are:
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
  and so on

I can't say I understand the subtleties of content-transfer encoding,
but t'bird
  edit > preferences > general > composition
has an option
  "For messages that contain 8-bit characters,
   use "quoted printable" mime encoding"
Mine is not checked.
then there's
  edit > preferences > display > fonts and encodings < fonts
which on my t'bird has
  outgoing: utf_8
  incoming: utf_8
  unchecked: apply default..to all incoming
  unchecked: use default..in all replies

The end result of the last part, I think, is that _my_ t'bird replies in
the senders encoding in preference to using my default.

Now,  finally ;-) getting back to your question,
Your t'bird seems to not understand the latin-1 e-acute that was in N's
original or G's reply.

So:
 what is your locale
 what is your t'bird settings for
   edit > preferences > display > fonts and encodings < fonts

hmmm, maybe it's your
  User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (X11/20070530)
that's getting confused? It's reading

and inserting in your reply the utf8 sequence {ef,bf,bd}

>From gucharmap:"specials"
"""
U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CHARACTER
General Character Properties
 Unicode category: Symbol, Other
Various Useful Representations
 UTF-8: 0xEF 0xBF 0xBD
 UTF-16: 0xFFFD
 C octal escaped UTF-8: \357\277\275
 XML decimal entity: &#65533;
Annotations and Cross References
Notes:
 • used to replace an incoming character whose value is unknown or
unrepresentable in Unicode
"""

Regards,
..jim


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