begin quoting MattyJ as of Tue, Sep 02, 2008 at 04:09:34PM -0700:
> <quote who="SJS">
> >> >The threading/crash protection stuff sounds interesting, but I'm tired
> >> of
> >> >hearing about all these new, awesome UI innovations that have existed
> >> in
> >> >Firefox and Opera for half a decade. Firefox is also an offender in
> >> this
> >> >space.
> >> >
> >> >Tabs on top? Oh my! How innovative! How about tabs on the left and
> >> right?
> >
> > Using processes and jails is the best part about it. Tabs on top? Who
> > cares? Actually, I might, since I mostly click on tabs, rather than
> > the location bar or back buttons. Leaving them closer to the content is
> > a GOOD thing.
> >
> > Hopefully that's configurable.
>
> In Opera you can configure your tabs on the top, bottom, left or right. I
> wasn't *just* being sarcastic. :) You can pretty much put any button bar,
> panel, etc on any of the four sides for your window.
Well, it looked like Google's "innovation" was replacing
+------------------------------------------------+
| < > [__________________________________] |
|------------------------------------------------|
| / Tab1 \/ Tab2 \/ Tab3 \ |
|/ \_______\________\____________________|
| |
With
+------------------------------------------------+
| / Tab1 \/ Tab2 \/ Tab3 \ |
|/ \_______\________\____________________|
| < > [__________________________________] |
|------------------------------------------------|
| |
Or possibly
_______ ______ _______
/ Tab1 \/ Tab2 \/ Tab3 \ |
/ \_______\________\____________________|
| < > [__________________________________] |
|------------------------------------------------|
| |
Which really don't seem that significant to me. We'll see, I suppose.
> >> You want an innovation, how about *tiling*. At this point, my monitor
> >> is so wide that small paragraphs barely fill one line.
> >
> > Opening up a new window doesn't do it for you?
>
> Opera has tiling, though only vertically and horizontally. Just right
> click on any tab and go to the 'Arrange' menu.
When can we expect penrose tiling in Opera?
> > Safari, for all its flaws, lets me drag tabs between windows, so I can
> > arrange the tabs as I please and tile the windows as appropriate.
> > Firefox doesn't do that, or if it does, I haven't yet figured out how.
>
> Opera does this, too, though it opens the same tab in the new window and
> leaves the old one behind. Haven't found a way to configure it to actually
> move it.
That's marginally better than copy-and-pasting the link, I suppose.
> I can't speak for Safari but one of my favorite Opera browsing features is
> the Control+Z hotkey. Accidentally close three of the 20 tabs you have
> open and OMG I forgot to bookmark those and have no clue how I got to them
> ...? Control+Z, Control+Z, Control+Z. Done. I love it.
Do you often close the wrong tabs, or close a tab by accident?
I sometimes do, when the browser gets REALLY sluggish, but the solution
generally is to restart the browser so that it isn't so bogged down.
> I could go on and on and be a jerk about Opera forever, but I guess my
> chief complaint is when Firefox, IE or whoever sends out a press release
> touting some new feature that already exists. Opera's press releases have
> a different tone to them, albiet it's because they are commercial. I don't
> see anything from them touting new browser features that already exist,
> and usually not even new things they were first to market with. Their
> press releases mostly talk about distribution wins and new GA releases
> (especially of Opera Mobile.)
Opera is marketing to a different market. Presumably, one less swayed by
hype and empty rhetoric.
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