>Can one not
>simply download a page, including its Javascript, then
>write a program to do anything one might imagine with
>that page?

Well, yes, and I'd bet that's how all these programs under discussion got
their start.

(Stewart-Style Subliminal comment 1):
"Download, save, open text editor..."

(SSSC 2):
"I was surprised to find visitor-tracking code when I wanted to read a
simple article.  Especially amazing was the sheer amount--it dwarfed the
content."

(SSSC 3): 
"It was a lucky break that html is plain text and has to be sent to me for
my browser to render.  It's source code.  It's also why I hate Flash.  I
fear we will lose that feature soon."

Barry

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