On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Carl Lowenstein wrote:

Yes.  Searching of Google Groups and other places shows that this (not
being able to install programs from the CD) is a new improved feature
of FC5.

Grr.

Well here's the problem... binary dependencies. If you install a new FC5 from CD and then don't do any updates to it, you can reasonably expect to install more packages from the CD without running into any sort of dependency errors.

But let's say that your FC5 system has PHP installed, and after installation a security update for PHP was released. You update your FC5 system accordingly with yum or up2date and continue on your way. But three weeks later, you decide that you'd like to add the LDAP module to PHP. You can't install it from CD, because that copy was built against the older PHP version. Instead you need to get the new matching module from an update mirror, again with a tool like yum or up2date.

This is a situation that system-config-packages was not built to handle. As soon as you apply security updates to a Fedora installation, the utility effectively became broken. I believe that's why it was removed. Better to have no utility than to have one that worked inconsistently.

Of course a regular GUI-oriented user should not have to know the underlying intricacies and limitations of the package management system. They should be able to just fire up a tool, pick the packages they want, and have them installed either from CD (if the dependency tree allows), or from updated online sources when necessary. Other distributions have such capable tools (synaptic, YaST), and I hope that the disappearance of Fedora's braindead version indicates that a new one is in the works.

--
Joshua Penix                                http://www.binarytribe.com
Binary Tribe           Linux Integration Services & Network Consulting

--
[email protected]
http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-newbie

Reply via email to