On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 12:01:52AM -0700, Joshua Penix wrote:
> Neil Schneider wrote:
> >I spent about a half hour on the phone with Greg, the president of
> >UCHUG. It seems there is a lot of animosity among their membership
> >toward SDCS. They don't trust the board as now composed, they are
> >reluctant to have SDCS hold membership information, like name,
> >address, telephone, email and I'm not terribly optimistic that they
> >are interested in rejoining SDCS. Greg said he would bring it up at
> >the next board meeting a week from tommorrow. We'll be in touch and
> >see if they can be "brought back into the fold".
> 
> I'm afraid Jim Berger did huge amounts of damage inside UCHUG after the 
> "coup" with his endless rambling, ranting and conspiracy theories.  I'd 
> imagine that's where the membership animosity comes from.  Even back 
> then I didn't sense it from Greg nearly as much, just as you don't sense 
> it now.  But it's probably damage done.  I'm not sure SDCS would want 
> UCHUG's membership back if it's going to be like that.
> 
> Interestingly, in the same set of board minutes that I quoted in my last 
> email, the SDCS board addresses the UCHUG issue.  It seems that UCHUG 
> refused to sign the new SIG Guidelines, which are the very guidelines 
> which allow them to branch off into their own 503(c) and receive their 
> funds back.  It seems that technically they're entitled to nothing, 
> since their last agreement was to the old guidelines and bylaws.
> 
> I'd be curious to hear Greg's input on this.  If SDCS board is 
> considering giving them their money back, we should keep an eye on the 
> process.  Here is the relevant snippet:
> 
> "UCHUG wrote a letter that they don't want to join the group as of 
> 11/19/04 (the extended deadline they were granted). Discussion about 
> what they would have to do to get their funds back. They already said 
> they don't want to sign the SIG guidelines that would grant them access 
> to their funds if they become a non-profit in a timely way. We agreed 
> that Claude and/or Sarah will get on their bank account and move the 
> funds, and then we will vote on our plan for their next steps, as they 
> have already violated the procedures for retaining their funds. (They 
> have to sign the guidelines to get their funds back after following the 
> procedures.)"
> 
> Perhaps UCHUG finally signed, or perhaps the board voted to allow it 
> regardless.  I wasn't there and don't have the minutes.  Again, surely 
> Claude or Daly would be happy to provide them if we're interested.
> 
> --j

Claude has remarked several times that even though the deadline for
applying for funds has passed, the board as it's presently constituted
would happily retur their money if they asked.

I hadn't heard about their unwillingness to sign the SIG agreement,
which would seem like a prerequisite for having their money returned
under the bylaws.

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