I have used it while cranking.  During cold starts I would leave the
primer out a bit and sometimes "catch" the engine with a bit more prime
before the carb could get fuel to the engine.  I have always heard that
leaving a primer out could be a bad thing.  I have had no trouble, but
don't remember ever leaving it out.  I will ask around the hangar fellas
to see if it has ever happened to them.  

Kevin




-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Steve Bray
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 9:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: KR> primer

Colin
I had a push primer in my VP and have one in my 172,
I have failed to lock it and didn;t notice any problem. I also feel as
if I 
have some control of the amount of fuel I push in.  When you push 1/2 or
1/4 
of a stroke surely that is less fuel.
Why can't it be used while cranking the motor?



Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee




>From: "Colin Rainey" <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected], KRnet <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: KR> primer
>Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:16:03 -0500
>
>The manual primer can also create a no start rich condition if the
pilot 
>doesn't get the knob seated and locked, which happens more frequently
than 
>A&P's would like to admit. All the certified planes I flew with carbs
had 
>this type primer, and half were so hard to push in and out after a few 
>years, that it would be easy to not have it seated by a low hour pilot.

>This then allows the fuel to be "sucked" in through this primer port as

>well, causing a rich condition and engine stall.  Also you can't use
this 
>type while cranking, only before. I do not like it because you do not
know 
>how much fuel you are injecting, and you get all at once, like
gradually 
>like the solenoid.  The electronic solenoid can hang open true, but if
a 
>high quality one is used, it should be reliable for many years trouble 
>free.  Cold start solenoids have been used on VW engines in cars for
years, 
>and would be perfect for those wanting a single injector after the
carb...
>
>
>Colin Rainey
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