This is Dynon's new ADS-B In Solution.  At McMinnville, we beat up on the Dynon 
rep a bit because their ADS-B IN was only on 978 MHZ (UAT) and their ADS-B OUT 
was via a trig Mode S Transponder on 1090 MHZ (1090-ES).  With their previous 
solution two planes equipped with identical Dynon units wouldn't see each other 
via ADS-B unless they were within range of an ADS-B tower so it could 
rebroadcast their signals back out to both planes.  That's a bit of a useless 
configuration out west where ADS-B towers can be sparse and mountains often 
times block the signals.  With a dual band receiver, the two planes would see 
each others signals, so will have a more accurate and more reliable picture of 
the traffic around them.  Even the lowest cost receivers (Stratux for example) 
are usually dual band.  
 
ADS-B Out is independent from ADS-B In and is the expensive part of the 
equation with the cost being driven by the FAA Mandate for a WAAS III GPS 
(which in my hmble opinion carries very little value).
 
There is no ADS-B requirement before 2020, and then only if you plan to fly in 
airspace where it is mandated.  For those flying with Mode-C transponders, the 
guys with ADS-B In & Out are often times have you displayed on their GPS 
anyway, although the position and reliability of the Mode C traffic can be a 
bit sketchy.
 
Traffic mapping reliability of ADS-B vs Mode-C:  The ADS-B Out signals 
typically broadcast roughly once a second.  ADS-B units that receive the 
traffic data directly from other ADS-B units typically get updated once a 
second, so get a very accurate picture of traffic locations.
 
Mode C transponders are typically interrogated by radar and reply once every 5 
- 10 seconds.  If the signal reaches the radar site, the data has to be 
processed, then sent out to the ADS-B Tower, which is usually not co-located 
with the Radar, then the data is rebroadcast back out via TIS-B signal 
broadcast from the ADS-B Tower.  I find that the ADS-B towers go silent quite 
often, and mode C traffic at best, updates usually at 15 - 30 second intervals 
when the traffic, radar and ADS-B towers are all in reasonably  close 
proximity.  But many times the Mode-C traffic just pops up on the screen 
occasionally, then disappears again as the updates between the radar and the 
ADS-B tower, then the rebroadcasts out from the tower are so slow that the 
traffic snapshot times out and the traffic disappears off the screen again.
 
The one comment I have made, and heard from many others flying with ADS-B is 
that they never knew how much traffic was around them until it was displayed on 
their screen.
 
Nothing wrong with flying without ADS-B.  It's only a tool you can choose to 
use or not in most of the airspace out there.  I have flown coast to coast 
completely electronics free, and have flown coast to coast with all the latest 
goodies.  No question it's easier flying with all the goodies, but there is 
something pure about flying cross country with out all the electronic stuff.
 
-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
 
 
 

Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 at 1:07 PM
From: "Paul Visk via KRnet" <[email protected]>
To: KRnet <[email protected]>
Cc: "Paul Visk" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: KR> Dynon Duel Band ADS-B
Todd, No. This receiver is part of the Skyview system .
Pete, here's the link to their preflight brief
http://preflight.dynonavionics.com/2017/03/dynons-new-dual-band-ads-b-traffic-and.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed:+DynonPreflightBrief+(Dynon+Preflight+Brief)&m=1
Paul Visk Belleville Il.
618-406-4705


Is this a complete product to meet the upcoming ADS-B requirement, that I 
can install in my KR2S inexpensively

Todd Thelin


In a message dated 3/24/2017 11:07:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:

Just got  an email from Dynon.  They now have a dual band a ADS-B receiver.
I  guess we talk some sence  into Kirk at the McMinnville gathering. 

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