Just a reminder that today's VW engines was originally designed for flight
(target drones), and adapted to mass production for cars. There was even a
German-certified Limbach, that produced about 6000 of them. Their performance
in Beetles is legendary, but everyone who had one knows that they do require
different maintenance than American liquid cooled auto engines. Properly
assembling them with modern modifications really seems to extend their TBO, but
VeeDubs do need more attention to the valves than Continentals. Additionally,
VW valves are less expensive to repair.
The KRs were built around the VW engine, and LOTS of builders have great
success with them. If today's builders want to try newer, more powerful
engines in our KRs, we can do so - giving a little extra meaning to the
category of "Experimental." Names like Jabiru and Rotax sound like viable
options. Neither is That much cheaper than a Lycoming, and sometimes parts are
more difficult to find at reasonable prices.
Myself, I've often thought that liquid cooling might be a good alternative for
aircraft use, especially in the flight regimes use by most KR pilots. Still,
there haven't been so many liquid-cooled KRs flying for 10+ years that I can
think of.
Griff
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2019 19:03:52 +0000 (UTC)
From: Randy Smith <[email protected]>
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I had 4 VW engines 2 subaru engines 1 con 75 and finely 1 0-200. I told myself
I was done with VW and Subarus I lost 3 VW engines on the way to oshkosh,? VWs?
all in Mo. area, Subaru in the pan handle of Florida. O-200 ran for 2 years
with no problems. I sold the plane. I owned Less Palmers for a few years and
Bud Willson for a year. I got my 47 Bellanca Cruiseair flying this year
(rebuilt Engine)? I am selling my C310 next Febuary. Told my wife I am going to
find another KR taildrager to fly.??
On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 08:37:02 AM CST, Mike Sylvester via KRnet
<[email protected]> wrote:
Good morning guys, Every so often we get into the discussion of whether or not
the Subaru is a good alternative to the airplane engine. As far back as I can
remember I've had a wrench in my hand and I still consider myself a fair
mechanic. We all would like to think that we could work out the issues flying
behind a Subaru offers but several years ago I realized that the chances that I
could find the "magical fix" that several thousand other pilots before me
hadn't been able to do was just not worth the fight. I decided to go with the
Cont. O-200 and after trips from Talladega Al. to Missouri, Wisconsin, Illinois
and all over the southeast I have no regrets. My advice, spend a few extra
bucks on a proven engine. You'll save $$$ in the long run.
? ? Just my opinion, your ideas may vary and that's OK.
Mike Sylvester
kr2s builder
Birmingham,AL.
Cell no.205-966-3854
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Larry commented,
"I also wonder about the Jabiru."
We can learn from Colin Hale's experience when it comes to this engine.
He himself said in one of his postings that the engine isn't very good.
He knew the engine and its weaknesses and knew how to fix and deal with the
Jabiru so he stuck with it - until it finally let him down in Japan.
That off-field landing would have worked out fine I think had it not been a
stepped-level golf driving range.
A friend here at Chapter 14 had a Wittman Tailwind with the 3300 version of
that engine. He couldn't keep valve seats in it and finally sold the plane and
engine in disgust. He learned to hate it. Caused an off-airport forced
landing (successful) and other troubles. The Tailwind of course is a fine
plane.
Colin sure did some great KR flying. His excursion into Russia was epic.
Mike
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Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:39:53 +1000
From: "Martin Boyle" <[email protected]>
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Hi I own a jabiru engine and aircraft and if you follow the workshop manual and
do all the AD's you won't have trouble.
Having said that there is a new 4Cyl & 6Cyl motor on the market by jabiru that
is out performing a lot of other engines out there in performance and power to
weight and the price is good Martin
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Larry commented,
"I also wonder about the Jabiru."
We can learn from Colin Hale's experience when it comes to this engine.
He himself said in one of his postings that the engine isn't very good.
He knew the engine and its weaknesses and knew how to fix and deal with the
Jabiru so he stuck with it - until it finally let him down in Japan.
That off-field landing would have worked out fine I think had it not been a
stepped-level golf driving range.
A friend here at Chapter 14 had a Wittman Tailwind with the 3300 version of
that engine. He couldn't keep valve seats in it and finally sold the plane and
engine in disgust. He learned to hate it. Caused an off-airport forced
landing (successful) and other troubles. The Tailwind of course is a fine
plane.
Colin sure did some great KR flying. His excursion into Russia was epic.
Mike
KSEE
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