> From: Roland Mainz <roland.mainz at nrubsig.org> ... > Umpf... because the ksh93 "default" is that no editor mode is enabled, > leaving beginners completely puzzled how to proceed.
So, insted we send these beginners off believing that gmacs is the way it is. I don't think this is better. > The whole addition of /etc/ksh.kshrc is about improving _USUABILITY_. And, for me, usability is "vi" mode. I thought from the proposal, this was all about "ease of administation". Upon re-reading it, I see it does talk about ease of use, but frankly, I don't buy it. You offend those who don't want "gmacs" mode by making a stylistic choice. > Please ask yourself: Why prefer people "bash" ? The answer is: Because > it is a shell which is very easy to use. It has "working cursor keys" > and is quite intuitive to use. I really like to do the same for ksh93 to > improve the usuability of Solaris - the old Solaris ksh is really hated > by both admins and users for not having "working cursor keys"&&history. > We can't use "bash"'s solution of doing this via a builtin setting > because this would violate the POSIX standard (which requires that all > "set -o flags" are off by default (excluding any settings made after the > shell started and reads it's startup files (like /etc/profile, > /etc/ksh.kshrc, ~/.kshrc etc.))) - instead we use the file which was > originally invented to handle this kind of settings: /etc/ksh.kshrc I don't buy your assertions. I don't prefer bash. Many people don't. Even if I did prefer bash, it wouldn't be because of "working cursor keys". I have no-clue why bash seems to be preferred on Linux systems over a bunch of shells (such as zsh), but I think it lies more with early licenses and Open Source religion than with any technical or usability attributes. By your logic, I could assume that DOS is the end-all Operating System, rather than just happening to be in the right place at the right time (and having its competitors make awful business decisions). Look, I'm not going to lie down on the tracks over this. Do any other PSARC members feel uncomfortable over shipping a stylistic choice? If not, I'll just go away and sulk. 8^) - jek3
