On Tue 17 Oct 2006 at 02:24PM, Joseph Kowalski wrote:
> 
> > From: Roland Mainz <roland.mainz at nrubsig.org>
> ...
> > Umpf... because the ksh93 "default" is that no editor mode is enabled,
> > leaving beginners completely puzzled how to proceed.
> 
> So, insted we send these beginners off believing that gmacs is the way
> it is.  I don't think this is better.

To me it sounds like you are saying that beginners must be forced
through a steep learning curve because it's "good for them."

> > The whole addition of /etc/ksh.kshrc is about improving _USUABILITY_.
> 
> And, for me, usability is "vi" mode.
> 
> I thought from the proposal, this was all about "ease of administation".
> 
> Upon re-reading it, I see it does talk about ease of use, but frankly,
> I don't buy it.  You offend those who don't want "gmacs" mode by making
> a stylistic choice.
...
> Look, I'm not going to lie down on the tracks over this.  Do any other
> PSARC members feel uncomfortable over shipping a stylistic choice?  If
> not, I'll just go away and sulk.  8^)

We should offer customers both *choice* and *wonderful defaults*.
Choosing "none" has no impact on the former and fails the latter.

I feel *great* about shipping a stylistic choice.  Kudos, Roland.

        -dp

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Daniel Price - Solaris Kernel Engineering - dp at eng.sun.com - blogs.sun.com/dp

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