Hi,
2013/10/3 Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild <[email protected]>
> Dear all,
>
> I am a member of the Free Software Foundation Europe, and I am writing
> this e-mail because I wanted to ask an Estonian governmental institution
> to recommend LibreOffice to their visitors instead of an outdated
> version of OpenOffice. I would happily point them to the Estonian
> version of the LibreOffice site, which appears to be
> <et.libreoffice.org>, which redirects to <libreoffice.ee>.
>
I am the Estonian translator of LibreOffice and (at least in theory)
manager of et.libreoffice.org. The redirect was my decision, because I
don't have time to maintain et.libreoffice.org myself and no volunteers
have stepped in to do it either. So I saw redirecting it to
libreoffice.ee(which at least gets updated) as a reasonable solution
until I or someone
else would have time to maintain et.libreoffice.org.
However, the content on that site has raised some concerns in me: The
> site advertises LibreOffice mainly as "gratis" (tasuta) instead of
> "free" (vaba) as in free speech; the site claims that either the site's
> or the software's copyright belongs to the Free Software Foundation
> ("Autoriõigus © 2007, Free Software Foundation, Inc." in the footer),
> which I seriously doubt; and the site also includes Facebook social
> plug-in, which raises non-free JavaScript and privacy issues.
>
I am aware of this (except for the FB plugin issues, which I hadn't thought
about until now), thanks to Marc Paré, who wrote to me about it on June 19,
2012. I sent a message to the site maintainers after that, asking them to
fix these issues, but I never got a reply and they haven't corrected their
mistakes either.
I am fairly sure that The Document Foundation does not wish to advertise
> LibreOffice as "gratis" instead of "free", and it seems to me that many
> of the er… more unique aspects of <libreoffice.ee> are likely not
> condoned by The Document Foundation.
>
I agree.
I am afraid that in its current state I cannot recommend the Estonian
> site in good conscience, and unfortunately there seems to be no
> Estonian download page listing more than one platform and version of
> the software on <libreoffice.org>, and thus a speedy resolution of the
> aforementioned issues would be very welcome.
>
There is et.libreoffice.org/allalaadimine, but the text there is seriously
outdated by now.
Given the (long-lasting) problems with libreoffice.ee, I propose that I end
the redirect, so that it will no longer appear as if TDF approves of the
content of libreoffice.ee; and instead make et.libreoffice.org a very
low-content site where pretty much only the download page is visible and
semi-regularly updated. However, since libreoffice.ee does have useful info
in Estonian for users, I would still like to provide a link to it somewhere
on et.libreoffice.org, although this time with a disclaimer.
Would that resolve a part of the problem here?
I am looking forward to hearing from you. If I can be of assistance,
> please do not hesitate to contact me.
>
> P.S. Please be advised that, as The Document Foundation proudly claims
> Richard Stallman and the FSF as their supporters and this issue affects
> the image of the FSF, I will be forwarding a copy of this e-mail to them.
>
Perhaps it would help if you, as a representative of FSFE, contacted the
managers of libreoffice.ee, perhaps they are more motivated to reply to
FSFE than to a mere translator.
Best regards,
Mihkel Tõnnov
Estonian translator of LibreOffice
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