Hi Mihkel, all, Le 03/10/2013 12:11, Mihkel Tõnnov a écrit : > Hi, > > 2013/10/3 Heiki "Repentinus" Ojasild <[email protected]> > >> Dear all, >> >> I am a member of the Free Software Foundation Europe, and I am writing >> this e-mail because I wanted to ask an Estonian governmental institution >> to recommend LibreOffice to their visitors instead of an outdated >> version of OpenOffice. I would happily point them to the Estonian >> version of the LibreOffice site, which appears to be >> <et.libreoffice.org>, which redirects to <libreoffice.ee>. >> > > I am the Estonian translator of LibreOffice and (at least in theory) > manager of et.libreoffice.org. The redirect was my decision, because I > don't have time to maintain et.libreoffice.org myself and no volunteers > have stepped in to do it either. So I saw redirecting it to > libreoffice.ee(which at least gets updated) as a reasonable solution > until I or someone > else would have time to maintain et.libreoffice.org. > > However, the content on that site has raised some concerns in me: The >> site advertises LibreOffice mainly as "gratis" (tasuta) instead of >> "free" (vaba) as in free speech; the site claims that either the site's >> or the software's copyright belongs to the Free Software Foundation >> ("Autoriõigus © 2007, Free Software Foundation, Inc." in the footer), >> which I seriously doubt; and the site also includes Facebook social >> plug-in, which raises non-free JavaScript and privacy issues. >> > > I am aware of this (except for the FB plugin issues, which I hadn't thought > about until now), thanks to Marc Paré, who wrote to me about it on June 19, > 2012. I sent a message to the site maintainers after that, asking them to > fix these issues, but I never got a reply and they haven't corrected their > mistakes either. > > I am fairly sure that The Document Foundation does not wish to advertise >> LibreOffice as "gratis" instead of "free", and it seems to me that many >> of the er… more unique aspects of <libreoffice.ee> are likely not >> condoned by The Document Foundation. >> > > I agree. > > I am afraid that in its current state I cannot recommend the Estonian >> site in good conscience, and unfortunately there seems to be no >> Estonian download page listing more than one platform and version of >> the software on <libreoffice.org>, and thus a speedy resolution of the >> aforementioned issues would be very welcome. >> > > There is et.libreoffice.org/allalaadimine, but the text there is seriously > outdated by now. > > Given the (long-lasting) problems with libreoffice.ee, I propose that I end > the redirect, so that it will no longer appear as if TDF approves of the > content of libreoffice.ee; and instead make et.libreoffice.org a very > low-content site where pretty much only the download page is visible and > semi-regularly updated. However, since libreoffice.ee does have useful info > in Estonian for users, I would still like to provide a link to it somewhere > on et.libreoffice.org, although this time with a disclaimer. > > Would that resolve a part of the problem here?
On a TDF point of view I think so, even if libreoffice.ee don't use the official logo and, by that, show that they are not affiliated, I think the redirect is confusing. So even displaying low-content on the Estonian official website would be better and may appeal some volunteers to step in and add content to it. Kind regards Sophie -- Sophie Gautier <[email protected]> Tel:+33683901545 Membership & Certification Committee Member - Co-founder The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
