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From: Kay sch...@apache.org [mailto:ksch...@apache.org]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:14 PM
To: AOO Dev Apache
Cc: q...@openoffice.apache.org; l10n@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: [DISCUSS] Release 4.2: General Topics

Hello all--
I think it would be valuable to discuss some general issues/ideas with the 
upcoming 4.2 release. My plan is to keep this general discussion "in play" 
until Sat, Sept 3, then do a summary with what was agreed to.

WARNING: This is quite long!

*PRIORITIES*

1. Update the localization.

We've had quite a bit of work by the localization folks since the 4.1.1 
release. This was the last release, in 2014-08-21 to import localization 
updates. Currently, it seems we might also add 3 new languages: Uyghur, 
Sinhala, and Icelandic with the 4.2 release. This would include both UI 
translations and Help translations.

We need volunteers to lead this endeavor. I, personally, don't know anything 
about this process. This is a very high priority and it would be good to port 
translations over to our main repository as soon as possible for testing.

2. Update Java requirement from Java 1.5 to *at least* Java 1.7

I am rather adamant that we change our building requirement to Java 1.7 for all 
platforms. I will be changing that in our Building Guide today.
Java 1.5 went out of support by Oracle in November, 2009. We use OpenJDK but 
I'm sure updates for Java 1.5 through that channel are also no longer available.
Even Java 1.7 has reached end of life by Oracle for public support as of April, 
2015. To avoid undue issues for some of our current users on older platforms, I 
am "OK" with java 1.7. I am fairly confident ALL users can obtain this for 
whatever platform they are using.

3. Issues for inclusion

We need to include submitted/tested patches since 4.0.x. This should not 
include UI changes which would need to undergo a much longer test period.

The ones I've identified are:


https://bz.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_status=CONFIRMED&bug_status=ACCEPTED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&f1=product&f2=component&f3=attachments.ispatch&f4=attachments.description&o1=notsubstring&o2=notsubstring&o4=substring&order=Importance&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&v1=ui&v2=ui&v4=patch&version=4.0.0&version=4.0.0-dev&version=4.0.1&version=4.0.1-dev&version=4.1.0&version=4.1.0-beta&version=4.1.0-dev&version=4.1.1&version=4.1.2&version=4.1.2-dev&version=4.2.0-dev

Due to the fact that I actually have trouble identifying patches in BZ, this 
query may not be inclusive, so please feel free to do your own investigation.

Additionally, issue 127068, involving analytics on our source code would surely 
be worth investigating.

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=127068

You might also see commits involving code that are related to other issues that 
are not on the above query.

*BUILDBOTS AND CONFIGURATION*

1. Move to different buildbots?

I will be forwarding a communication I had this morning from infrastructure 
concerning our current issues with our buildbots and a possible solution. You 
will see that the Linux32 and Linux64 buildbots are not even the same version 
of Ubuntu. We could move to Ubuntu 14 for both these Linux buildbots where we 
would also have more control over what's installed on them.
We need a volunteer to lead this effort.

2. Configuration Issues
Add, at least the ant version we're checking for in our configuration is not 
the version recommended in our Building Guide.

*PRODUCTION ENVIRONMENT*

For all our past distributions, we've had our own production environment if you 
will. This means the end user binaries were produced on AOO developer 
equipment, and these developers took responsibility for signing the binaries 
and getting them uploaded to SourceForge.  It has been suggested that we use 
the ASF buildbots to produce our binaries with this release. My feeling is that 
unless we can "move" to a new buildbot environment that is more consistent with 
our two Linux distributions, we can'd to this.

The issues with using an AOO production environment vs ASF is this:
* it is much easier to script signing of binaries and move them to SourceForge 
on AOO supplied production equipment.
* if we use ASF buildbot output, the binaries need to be downloaded to some 
other location by developers for signing, computing checksums, etc.
There is no direct shell access to the buildbot machine that I am aware of for 
transfer purposes.

Andrea has volunteered to set up a production environment for us. SEE:
http://markmail.org/message/b4dbjdeu4llczqwt

We need PMC members to volunteer with this effort if we decide to continue with 
the AOO production environment.


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This is probably enough for now. More coming over the next few days.
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Kay Schenk
Apache OpenOffice

"Things work out best for those who make  the best of the way things work out."
                         -- John Wooden

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