I agree about the poodles, all of the ones I have had are really great. The doodles WERE "invented" because of exactly what you said. They were invented for a guy who needed a service dog, he had allergies but didn't want a "foofie" dog.
I will also say that my husband didn't ever want a "foofie" dog and his favorite dog that we have ever had come through the house was a really old, 6 pound,white toy poodle named FiFi. I don't think they get any "foofier" than that.
I do the same thing with my poodles grooming, no foofie cuts here either. I shave 'em down with a 5 or a 7. I have seen so many that come in where the people didn't even bother to do that. My own toy poodle was only 4.5 pounds when I got him and we shaved almost a POUND of mats and dirt off of him. If he were a shedding breed, it might not have been so bad. Obviously, I get in a lot of herding dogs who are heavily matted as well, but it is a given that you HAVE to do something with poodle hair, whether it is shave it off when it gets long or brush it like mad.
I also love the standards, although because they are rare in rescue (thank god) I have only had a few come through the house. I used to do agility and obedience with my border collie and I would love to have a standard to show, one day.... I think the doodles are more laid back and goofier than the standards, although I have always said that the standards are like the border collies but the BC intensity is replaced with goofiness.
I still think that standards are happier when they have something to do, like agility or obedience and that they require more grooming than shedding dogs.
Abbie
Sherri Regalbuto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have to add my two cents and disagree that poodles are not happy if not worked heavily and that grooming is huge. Yes if you want your poodle to look all poodily then it will take some work. But, for people like me who have had standards for over 21 years and my dogs are shaved regularly, no poofs anywhere. When short they don't even need brushing, especially if they swim alot because their hair naturally curls in tiny ringlets.I am a professional dog trainer and I would not want anything else. I think the whole "poofy hair" style is what turned people off of poodles and the idea of adding a macho breed like the lab helps men to have a poodle. I know many woman who want a poodle and their husbands say "no way, they want a real dog." I have learned to brush it off and am happy that they are not "in style" like the doodles.Also, people that are not educated about breeding, genes and hereditary issues do not understand that they are no healthier than purebreds. All dogs should have health test no matter if they are are mixes or purebreds. There are purebred breeders out there who outcross which is what a 1/2 1/2 mix is.People need to educate themselves and a mix is no healthier than a purebred. It is all in the breeding.Sherri
Abigail Morrison <forseyworsey@yahoo.com> wrote:I know I don't pipe up on here a lot, but I thought I might be of some help as I was one of the people who was irritated at the whole designer dog thing. The first doodle foster I took in, I took her so that I could tell people how high energy and high maintenance they are. Long story short, I loved her so much, I went back to foster her sister the next day.The biggest thing that irritates people is that we are killing mixed breeds in shelters every day and feel it is irresponsible to be purposely making more mixed breeds. It is important to know that they ARE mixed breeds, or mutts and to stop telling people that they aren't. The other thing is that making them designer dogs drives up the price which drives up the amount of people who are not doing proper testing on the dogs and are only out to make a buck. Calling them designer dogs also makes people who wouldn't ordinarily want a dog, want one because it is a designer dog, making them quickly filling up shelters.Just admit that they are mutts and that you like the temperment of both dogs but don't like certain things about both breeds, maybe that you met one who was really great or that you have allergy problems and don't have the time or energy to devote to a poodle as they are a pretty high maintenance breed as far as grooming AND energy level, they are usually not happy when they are not being worked with heavily, and the doods seem to be a lot more layed back. When I come across people who are pissy about the doodles, it helps to admit that they are mixed breeds and that I wasn't so sure I like the idea, but then met one and fell in love.Don't know if anything I have said helps, or if I just babbled on a long time. But I thought I would throw in my two cents. As I WAS that person who poo pooed the doodles for a long time!Abbie
cat_clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]com> wrote:I live in Doodle Central so thankfully, I don't have to deal with
that. By the same token, I also live in a place where people
probably get doodles BECAUSE they're called "designer dogs". By in
large I get a really positive reaction when I tell people he's a
labradoodle. However, some old man made a negative remark to me the
other day but I brushed it off.
Cooper is 6 months old and is fabulous! I'm so in love with this
little guy and everyone is amazed at how well behaved he is. In
fact, the vet remarked to another mutual friend that he was so calm
that she thought something was wrong with him. I'm happy to report
he's healthy but I guess she's seen a lot of high-strung doodles.
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>
> I'm coming up against it more and more and it's frustrating. I'm
on a
> general dog list and Labradoodles came up and no matter what I say
about Doodles
> in general or Farley, my Australian Multi-Gen, there is a
naysayer. It really
> gets my goat. The director of our local Humane Society wrote a
really nasty
> article about doodles that was in both the regular paper and the
HS
> newsletter. A doodle came through the shelter and she was going
on and on about how
> bad it is (ironically - she is the one who adopted it!). Most of
these
> people have had no or very limited contact with doodles anyway.
When my friend
> heard we were getting one she went on and on about how wild they
are, her
> neighbor had one and it was just horrible. When she met Farley
she was amazed and
> said he was nothing like her neighbor's dog, who was an F1 from a
backyard
> breeder with no knowledge of it's lineage or any health testing,
etc. Anyway,
> I just wish I had a really great comeback for people who feel
they need to
> say nasty things and think they know more than I do about my dog.
>
> ~Kelly~
>
>
> (http://www.tickerfactory.com/ )
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