The slivering will come on slowly around the eyes muzzel and feet
first........Sounds like white gurad hairs very common in first gen dogs and
noticible in the dark black ones expecially. Many of my first gens have
them...........
They pull out ealisly but dont' mean much of anything, my understanding it's
a throwback trate from the poodles.........some dogs have more than others but
this is really not silvering or blueing...............
Hope this helps, perhaps some others know more. there are several good web
sites about doodle genitics and colors. I'll find them and post for you
later.........
fondly,
Carol/scl
www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com
Abigail Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey, I realize this post is about 100 years old but I just came
across it while cleaning out my inbox and had a question about the silvering
gene. I have always been a dog rescue person and the first thing that is done
to every animal that comes through my door is that they are fixed, so I don't
know a lot about genetics except for punnet squares and pea plants from biology
classes and I don't know a lot about breeding, ok, don't know anything about
breeding. ANYWAYS, as some of you know, we got in a litter of lab/ poodle mixes
from a puppy mill. When they came in 4 were black and one was chocolate. The
two black ones that I have had for a while have been getting more and more
white hairs growing in with the black ones. I looked up a silver doodle and
they aren't that light, but I am curious what is going on and what they might
look like. The one that I have at my house right now has a lot of white through
his legs and on the top of his head, towards the top of
his neck there is more white hairs than black. He is about a year and a half
old. I would love to have an idea of what to tell people to expect as far as
his coloring goes. After having him for a month his first foster mom didn't
recognize him because of all the white hairs.
Thanks,
Abbie
Carol Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well...... my female Jade only throws black babies.. PERIOD!, vet gen I'm
sure is BBEE though never tested. The sire I used, Bently, is a cream, but his
father is a sliver and his grandfather is a blue poodle. At about 7 weeks old
several of my puppies got this strange smuggy greying under their eyes and on
thier front legs. It was more apparent on the shorter coated pups not the
longer coated ones. I started doing some research and realised he had passed
on the silvering gene to his babies. This gene turns black dogs silver or
blue, chocolate dogs cafe, or lavendar..........the genetics get
comlpicated........it looks really cool and I loved having something to offer
other than black. It can take up to 3 years to finally see the finished coat
on a silvering doodle. If you saw my Leah, she is blue! She's grown out allot
since that pic was taken and again is looking more blackish grey, she will take
a long time to develop her color.
My Ace was an exceptional boy. It's been almost a year since he passed.
Kalie, my girl who is expecting and the dog in the pictures next to him had a
very hard time, she still is fearful of UPS or FEd x trucks when they come up
our drive way. She comes running to the house and is panic barking........not
agressive just scared, she was fearful on men in uniform as well but has gotten
over that, now it's just the trucks...........Note his head and body
conformation. He has that English blockyness about him as does my Scarlett.
It makes a difference. They are not as long nosed and narrowed headed as some
are when bred to a field trial lab. If you think about it, poodles are long
nosed, narrow heads, and tall. Field trial labs have that tendency as well,
English labs are the opposite. Some in the litter will take that from the lab
which makes a nicer conformation for a doodle in my opinion, especially if
breeding for a type or look. What some breeders fail to
realise is there is allot more than putting 2 dogs together and getting a
litter for the bucks. Once you know what your dogs throw and can produce you
can refine your lines and breeding practices.
All puppies are cute! What they grow up and look like will be the key! Also
what the pheno and geno type of the dog is as well.... ie what is seen and what
genitically is hidden that they can produce (like the silvering gene).
Let me guess..............the girl you spoke about is your "keeper" There
is always one that steels your heart!
Carol
www.southerncharmlabradoodles.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for all your input on my site. How
did you know that one pup was going to turn silver?
I just read your page dedicated to Ace. It made me cry and hold a puppy.
What an honor to have been able to have known and loved this boy. His
youngest photos look a lot like this one female I have. She is my curliest,
fluffiest and snuggliest.
Thanks again
Kathie
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