Thanks all! We are specifically looking for something that (a) is an "in wiki" solution and (b) generates a random number that is permanent.
By the way we found the answer: create a page at your will, then look at the page_random value for that page! It is as random a number as you can get. On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 5:35 PM, Platonides <[email protected]> wrote: > El 27/05/16 17:29, Huji Lee escribió: > >> Okay let me explain: we want to create a tie-breaker mechanism for ties >> in elections. My idea is that if we have two people who tie, we will >> have our local election representative make a null edit in a designated >> page. >> > > Terminology nitpick, what you need is a dummy edit, not a null edit > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Dummy_edit#Null_edit > > > Then we will use the right-most digit of the timestamp as a >> psuedorandom number, and use it to break the tie (if it is odd, the >> first person wins, if even the second person wins). The problem is you >> can plan your edit such that it'll happen on an even or odd second. It >> is hard, but possible. >> >> Rev ID is a good idea. Are there any other such pseudorandom numbers you >> can think of? >> > > The revision id could be gamed as well by the local election > representative. > You could use something like the stock value at closing that day of a > given exchange. > > > On 27/05/16 17:56, Merlijn van Deen (valhallasw) wrote: > > > > http://cgi.cs.duke.edu/~des/vct/vct.cgi > > <http://cgi.cs.duke.edu/%7Edes/vct/vct.cgi> > > > > There are probably a few other options online as well. > > Interesting. random.org offers the same service, but it's a paid one > https://www.random.org/draws/ > > > They wouldn't preclude the rogue organiser to request several coins until > his desired result is chosen, though, > > > Additionally, there's the option to implement something like this > ourselves (this is a trivial service). > > > Regards > > > _______________________________________________ > Labs-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l >
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