On 17 December 2013 22:34, David Crossley <cross...@apache.org> wrote: > sebb wrote: >> jan i wrote: >> > sebb wrote: >> >> Gabriela Gibson wrote: >> >> > >> >> > * People who are eligible to vote and the process >> >> > >> >> > Problem: Most of the Apache PMC's are busy, successful people and may >> >> > not >> >> > have much spare time and there are only 72 hours for them to find out, >> >> > think about and approve an idea, and then X-mas weekend shopping + real >> >> > life happens. >> >> >> >> That is a misunderstanding. >> >> The 72 hours is a MINIMUM period. >> > >> > for normal votes yes, but lazy consensus is normally considered 72 hours >> > unless otherwise specified. And the labs bylaws mix the 2 forms, so nobody >> > really knows what to rely on. >> > >> > Lazy consensus cannot work with a MINIMUM period, it depends on a fixed >> > period. >> >> Sort of. >> >> I think the period can be taken to end when the person tallies the vote. >> This may be at any point after the minimum period has elapsed. >> >> But in this case, the OP wrote: >> >> "there are only 72 hours for them to find out, think about and approve an >> idea" >> >> Approval is not needed for lazy consensus - only lack of disapproval - >> so the sentence does not make sense for lazy consensus. > > At Apache Forrest, the person calling the Vote needs to specify > exactly when it will end. And send gentle reminders along > the way. > > In that way there cannot be any ambiguity.
But votes may fail unnecessarily and then have to be redone if the original time limit was too short. > Open-ended votes could potentially lead to trouble. > e.g. if ever there was a contentious vote then it could > not just be tallied when there are enough votes to meet > a certain desired result. IME sometimes there are sufficient votes within the 3 days, sometimes it takes quite a bit longer. It can help to be flexible. > At Forrest we try to allow a full week, unless it is something urgent. > -David > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org
