Hi Guys, I have a suggestion that I had used earlier for my projects and also seen in Oracle Website.
Most projects in apache directory have a learning curve and all have some basic installation steps. What I was suggesting was as LABS, lets provide Virtual Machines ready built with projects already loaded. So for example, if you want an Apache Directory example lab, therefore people can download the latest VM with latest Apache Directory installation from LABS to their local machine and test the same. The VM can be of Windows/Linux OS. Even Ubuntu or Docker Images can be used for Open Source issues. Pipelines can be setup in Jenkins or other build tools to generate such VMs using chef and puppet. Hosting such VMs can be a space issue though but this can become very popular very soon. Also Labs can contain Custom Images from users who wish to contribute and have applied one or more combination of products. This way the concept would become popular for try and use concept. What say..?? Regards Vineet Verma -----Original Message----- From: jan iversen [mailto:jancasacon...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 15:50 To: labs@labs.apache.org Subject: Re: Revitalising Apache Labs > On 7 Feb 2017, at 11:01, Danny Angus <da...@apache.org> wrote: > > Right Labs subscribers, listen up... > > At the last board meeting we were put on notice that we should stir > ourselves into action or be prepared to close down. > > So I am looking for volunteers to do some outreach and awareness work > with commiters to see if we can generate wider participation in the > debate about our future, and hopefully from that to a proposal that > would make labs useful and relevant, and volunteers to execute it. > > I'd now like to discuss possible activities here, agree a list of > tasks and find volunteers. I think we need to have another discussion first, before adding many activities. Long time ago, I tried approx. what you are trying, and I still believe there is a space for a project like LABS, but we need to have a defined identify. An important comparison is against GitHub, currently we do not offer any real advantages, but a couple of disadvantages (like the time it takes to create a new project). We could easily provide LABS with some advantages: - be a foster home for project too small to start in Incubator and provide e.g. mentoring (something the GitHub totally lacks), with the aim that as the project hopefully grows it enters Incubator. - make more active advertisement of active project among the ASF community to attract more developers. - Remove the “no release” blocker, which was a very good reason not to make a LABS project. Remove might not be the right word, but allow release with a set of restrictions (e.g. clearly mark releases as LABS releases, and not a normal ASF release). > > My proposal so far has.. > First task is to revamp our website, to communicate that we are moving > into this phase. +1 > > Second task is to prep some permalinked content describing ourselves, e.g. > an ASF blog post for that we need to know our “identity" > > Third task is to draft an email to commiters@ linking to the blog > post, website, and perhaps a survey. Can be done, but I am unsure what the survey should contain, a total “how do you want our identity to be”, will most likely not provide much information, we can convert to a task list. > > What do you think? I hope LABS can be revived. > What other ideas do we have? See above. rgds jan I. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org