Hi Lorri -

Yes, I find the counter-clockwise wind works better for the
Z-twist.  And then you'll have to do your hitch differently
too...  essentially, I hold the bobbin with the head on the
left instead of the right and do the mirror of what I do
with the S-twist hitch.

Clay

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lorri Ferguson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Clay Blackwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Annette
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Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: [lace] Re: Working with silk thread


> I have found the same 'phenomena' with Z-twist threads.
> Is the 'proper' wind direction then counter clock-wise
(when looking at the
> head end of the bobbin?  I have always wound clock-wise.
>
> Lorri F
>
>
> > I have found that the silk I work with (Tire) likes to
lose
> > it's twist when I work with it.  It also had a lot of
> > trouble with the hitch jumping off the neck of the
bobbin.
> > So for this latest project (a Milanese piece started
during
> > a workshop with Louise Colgan!) I took a closer look and
my
> > suspicions were confirmed...  Tire silk has a Z-twist
> > instead of the S-twist I'm accustomed to.  While many
> > knowledgeable people say that that makes no difference,
I
> > can tell you that reversing the direction I wound my
bobbins
> > made a huge difference in how the thread behaved.  So be
> > sure you know which way your silk is twisted, and wind
> > accordingly.
> >
> > Clay
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Annette Gill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 3:42 AM
> > Subject: [lace] Re: Working with silk thread
> >
> >
> > > Robin,
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for your suggestions about silk
threads.
> > I think I've seen
> > > YLI threads in local quilt shops, but I don't know
whether
> > that included
> > > their silks.  (Or maybe it was in Hobbycraft - sorry
for
> > mentioning the H
> > > word, Jean and Liz!)  Thanks also for the tip about
the
> > thread untwisting -
> > > I have problems with that when I use continental
bobbins,
> > so I'd better
> > > stick to Midlands bobbins when I use silk.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Annette, London
> > >
> > > > In my opinion, silk is no harder to use than linen
and
> > cotton.  Gutermann
> > > > silk is the most like cotton in look and feel, so I
> > don't think you want
> > > > that if you're trying silk for its difference.
> > > >
> > > > Tire and YLI (and a third brand I can't think of
right
> > now) silk come on
> > > > spools that look like sewing machine thread, and
that's
> > the stuff I'd
> > > > recommend.  It comes in size 50 and 100, and I've
used
> > both sizes for
> > > Bucks
> > > > and torchon patterns...
> > >
> > > > You do have to watch the rolling bobbins.  The
thread is
> > very strong while
> > > > it's properly twisted, but when bobbins roll around
it
> > can come untwisted
> > > > and then it breaks easily...
> > >
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