---- Carolyn Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
 I don't think the spangles have anything at all to do with weight for 
tensioning.  Across the continent, you see many very fine laces made with 
relatively heavy bobbins (relative to, say, Honiton or even a Midlands with no 
spangles).  -----

Well, this is kinda my point.  Midlands without spangles are rather light, 
compared to continentals with significant bulges at their bottoms.  Hence the 
need for spangles on the Midlands.


----More to the point, is there any situation that you can think of where it is 
possible for the bobbin itself to tension the threads?  In my experience it is 
always necessary to use my hands.  Further, I can't think of a lace that I've 
made where the weight of the bobbin has caused the threads to break, or where 
the lightness of the bobbins has caused the threads to become untensioned.----

I have had fine threads break with spangled Midlands (not often, because I 
don't do much fine-thread lace).  And I have had cases where the thread was 
"too big" or "too strong" for Midlands that I hadn't yet spangled.  Yes, my 
hands are necessary for the details, but gravity *keeps* tension on the thread 
that does affect the lacemaking.  Not enough tension and the hitches keep 
popping off and the thread (even when the hitch is still on) comes loose around 
the shaft.  Too much tension and the threads start getting stressed.

I'm not arguing against Carolyn's  theory for why Midlands bobbins are 
spangled--her theory is reasonable (although I'm allowed to prefer my own)--but 
arguing against some of her explanation.  

Robin P.
Los Angeles, California, USA

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