Vickie
Whenever I have to throw out bobbins, I lay them to the back of the pillow but
don't knot them until I absolutely have to: the point where all the pins are
gone from that section.  The Reason: you never know when you'll discover you
really didn't want to throw those out.  Once they're knotted they are almost
impossible to set free.  When I do decide that I've passed the point of no
return I knot them but leave them long.  Reason: continuing to work on the
lace or even knotting other threads may put strain on knots.  They rarely come
undone, but on rare occasions may do so.  If you have already cut them short
you now have a total disaster to retrieve.

Ground pins:  I never take pairs out of ground if there is any way to avoid
it.  But if a ground pin ran out of thread and you had to hang a new bobbin
in, you have the old one to dispose of.  Work the two threads together -- old
one and new one -- for at least 1 inch.  Most of the time the friction will
keep a hole from developing.  If I were making point ground I wouldn't let
this happen in the first place.  I'd fudge somewhere to get that depleted
bobbin into a cloth stitch section or into the foot.  And then replace it
there.  Point ground doesn't have enough friction.

As for knots: I don't use fray check. When replenishing a bobbin I nearly
always work the double thread.  Then any knot I make is just added insurance
and isn't really necessary.  So I don't worry about ends.  I cut the thread
close to the knot, but not in or on the knot.  And that is enough.

If the knot happens because a thread broke, then the knot is a weaver's knot
which is the only way (just about) of salvaging the lace.  I unwork a section
until I can get that knotted thread into a place where it has more friction:
again into a cloth section or the foot.

I never remove threads or let knots happen in half stitch areas or in open
grounds.

But I also don't make lace for clothing (too much work to take care of it).
So my pieces are secure for posterity, but probably not for the washing
machine.
Lorelei

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