Alice I would call #141 a Cluny lace. I looked at it as close up as the software allowed, and even the braids entering and leaving the cloth trail are positioned so that those trails could be worked in the Cluny manner. To a large extent Bedordshire is distinguished by a STYLE but there also are technical differences. I find it almost impossible to describe the distinctions in terms of style alone. I'm going to have to think about that for a long time. Lorelei
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