Hi.  The figures in the face of the doll on p. 24 are not tallies.    They are 
really circles, but since they have only four spokes, it's gives a squarish 
look to them.  I'm sure there is a specific name for these...which someone will 
inform us.  They can be made with four, six, eight spokes, and the worker pair 
goes round and round the central crossing, doing a sewing on each spoke.  It 
reminds me of the center of a spider web.

There are others in the book that might be easier to see, though most of them 
have more spokes.  
p. 127 -- center of lowest flower (8 spokes)
p. 107 -- center of all flowers and some of the background (six spokes)

p. 33 -- center of top two feathers (8 spokes)
You can find others if you page through the book.

I don't think directions for this stitch are in 'Practical Skills'.    Perhaps 
someone can recommend a reference on the internet or in another book.  Contact 
me privately if you want specific coaching on the stitch.

Alice in Oregon -- nearing the end of a severe winter rain storm,  Got my flu 
shot today.


----- Original Message ----
From: Nova P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:09:05 PM
Subject: [lace] Russian Lace

Hello Lacemakers -      I have a question regarding 'tallies' in Russian 
Lace.  Not the usual leaf tallies - but a square tally.  Now I do have on 
hand a copy of 'Practical Skills' and have found some very nice square tally 
directions - from which I can make a selection.    But first.... I'd like to 
ask the opinion of those who have a copy of Russian Lace Patterns (Anna 
Korableva & Bridget M.Cook)  - if you wouldn't mind looking at the Vyatskii 
Doll pattern, in my copy on page 24, please?\

The face of the doll has what I think are a square tally, but looking 
closely <squinting> I cannot identify the style.  They do not look like they 
are 'woven' and I wondered, if in fact, there might be a specific procedure 
for Russian lace tallies of this shape?

I would welcome your opinions and especially if anyone has made this 
pattern - if they would share with me how they made these tallies.

Thanks so much for any help offered - I don't write in often but read up on 
all the great hints, bargains found, and interesting travels and experiences 
of the many of you!   Especially enjoyed the recent lace portraits!

Nova (along  the inside passage of Vancouver Island, B.C. west coast of 
Canada)

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