Hi, I've looked closely at the picture. It really doesn't look as complicated as a spiral. The nearest, I would suggest, is the spider option (illustration 19b) on p67 of Practical Skills in Bobbin Lace. Must go and try it and see what it looks like in the flesh.
Andrea in a dull and grey Cambridge, UK. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected]> Subject: Re: [lace] Russian Lace> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:36:09 -0800> > Reporting back: So far I have received three individual messages with > suggestions for the *tallies* re: Russian Lace Korableva/Cook book (Vyatskii > Doll pattern) -and since I receive the digested version there may be more of > you writing to the arachne url and I haven't received a digest yet. I just > mention this so you will not think I've overlooked any suggestions.> > Summarizing so far.....> > (1) Windmill crossing - and on further checking in the Alexandra Stillwell > Illus. Dic of Lacemaking, I found a description (pg. 239) for two > crossings - either/or would work I think, but the (b) option sounds best > suited for my space needing to be filled.> > (2) Circles (or 'wheelies') - two plaits coming in as 'spokes' to make the > circle. I checked out the references Alice - thank you - and I see on pg > 106 (Camomile) a diagram for wheels made with three plaits. It will be a > challenge for me, but I will try to adapt the method using two plaits.> > (3) Diagram (rec'd by attachment) showing two plaits coming in, one > 'splits' and goes around the outside while the other makes a small weaved > style of tally inside - that is the best I can do with 'words' to describe > the procedure and I apologize if I haven't done justice. The diagram is > very nicely done> > I am going to try all three of these suggestions and if any others arrive > via the digested version - I will try them too. These will make good > samples for me to use for further references.> > Thanks very much to Alice, Clay, Bev and Tamara - and a note just in from > Jane - who mentions *whirlpools*. Alice, maybe this is the name you were > looking for - so that would be three votes for 'whirlpool/circles'!> > > Nova> > > ----- Original Message -----> From: "Alice Howell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> To: "Nova P" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 8:04 PM> Subject: Re: [lace] Russian Lace> > > > Hi. The figures in the face of the doll on p. 24 are not tallies. They > > are really circles, but since they have only four spokes, it's gives a > > squarish look to them. I'm sure there is a specific name for > > these...which someone will inform us. They can be made with four, six, > > eight spokes, and the worker pair goes round and round the central > > crossing, doing a sewing on each spoke. It reminds me of the center of a > > spider web.> >> > There are others in the book that might be easier to see, though most of > > them have more spokes.> > p. 127 -- center of lowest flower (8 spokes)> > p. 107 -- center of all flowers and some of the background (six spokes)> >> > p. 33 -- center of top two feathers (8 spokes)> > You can find others if you page through the book.> >> > I don't think directions for this stitch are in 'Practical Skills'. > > Perhaps someone can recommend a reference on the internet or in another > > book. Contact me privately if you want specific coaching on the stitch.> >> > Alice in Oregon -- nearing the end of a severe winter rain storm, Got my > > flu shot today.> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----> > From: Nova P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > To: [email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:09:05 PM> > Subject: [lace] Russian Lace> >> > Hello Lacemakers - I have a question regarding 'tallies' in Russian> > Lace. Not the usual leaf tallies - but a square tally. Now I do have on> > hand a copy of 'Practical Skills' and have found some very nice square > > tally> > directions - from which I can make a selection. But first.... I'd like > > to> > ask the opinion of those who have a copy of Russian Lace Patterns (Anna> > Korableva & Bridget M.Cook) - if you wouldn't mind looking at the > > Vyatskii> > Doll pattern, in my copy on page 24, please?\> >> > The face of the doll has what I think are a square tally, but looking> > closely <squinting> I cannot identify the style. They do not look like > > they> > are 'woven' and I wondered, if in fact, there might be a specific > > procedure> > for Russian lace tallies of this shape?> >> > I would welcome your opinions and especially if anyone has made this> > pattern - if they would share with me how they made these tallies.> >> > Thanks so much for any help offered - I don't write in often but read up > > on> > all the great hints, bargains found, and interesting travels and > > experiences> > of the many of you! Especially enjoyed the recent lace portraits!> >> > Nova (along the inside passage of Vancouver Island, B.C. west coast of> > Canada)> >> > -> > To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:> > unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.9.2/1783 - Release Date: 12/11/2008 > 10:01 AM> > -> To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line:> unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to> [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ Win £1000 John Lewis shopping sprees with BigSnapSearch.com - To unsubscribe send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] containing the line: unsubscribe lace [EMAIL PROTECTED] For help, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
