In term of subtag, there is an -x- private use extension in IETF language tag standard, which mean it is possible to make something like be-x-old or en-x-simple. On the other hand, the standard allow variant extension, like it is possoble to indicate Early Modern English by writing en-emodeng according to standard, however those variant code should be registered via *IANA* Language *Subtag Registry*. 2015年8月28日 下午1:16於 "Amir E. Aharoni" <[email protected]>寫道：
> I wasn't talking about a new code, just a subtag. > > The question is which one, and whether it should be registered or should > we just make up something and use it. > בתאריך 28 באוג׳ 2015 07:57, "Jan van Steenbergen" <[email protected]> > כתב: > >> Dear all, >> >> The odds for Simple English obtaining an ISO 639-3 code are zilch, >> because these codes are given to languages and Simple English is not a >> language, at least not a language separate from English. It's merely a way >> of speaking and writing it – just like "difficult English", children's >> English, broken English or even Pig Latin are. It doesn't have any rules of >> its own, no separate grammar and no separate word stock, all it does is >> saying: "Try to write in short sentences and avoid difficult words". You >> can do the same thing with any other language as well, which might equally >> well result in Simple German, Simple Rhaeto-Romance or Simple Inuktitut. >> >> The only small change would be applying for an ISO code for Ogden's Basic >> English, which is generally treated as a constructed language. But that >> would be cheating, because the Simple English Wikipedia does not limit >> itself to Ogden's word lists, even though it endorses them. Besides, the >> ISO registration authority is pretty tough nowadays when it comes to >> constructed languages, and I don't think they would accept Basic English. >> >> Best regards, >> Jan van Steenbergen >> >> 2015-08-25 20:25 GMT+02:00 Oliver Stegen <[email protected]>: >> >>> Indeed, that's a problem! >>> >>> Imho, we'll have to deal with the status of Simple English in general. >>> Any chance of successfully applying an ISO code for it? Otherwise, we'll >>> run into more problems like this one >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Simple_English> >>> [1] with new project applications (for example, see Jon Harald's reply >>> under "arguments in favour"). >>> While Wikipedia <https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English> [2] >>> defines Basic English (on which Simple English is based) as constructed >>> language in its own right, that definition doesn't seem to have been >>> accepted widely. >>> >>> If push comes to shove, I'd vote for en-simple. I had actually assumed >>> that that was its encoding used already (based on the URL *simple*. >>> wikipedia.org). >>> >>> Fwiw, >>> Oliver >>> >>> [1] >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Simple_English >>> [2] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_English >>> >>> On 25-Aug-15 7:35 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> A question for the respected language code experts in the audience. >>> >>> Apparently, the Simple English Wikipedia uses "en" as its language code >>> in the HTML lang attribute, etc. >>> >>> I never noticed it until recently, when it started causing various bugs >>> with the ContentTranslation extension of which I am a developer. I somehow >>> assumed that it uses something like "en-simple" without ever checking it, >>> and that assumption was wrong - it's just "en". >>> >>> I believe that the code should be different from what is used by the >>> English Wikipedia, like it is with other wikis in language variants, such >>> as be-tarask. >>> >>> Do you have any suggestions about what code should it be? >>> en-simple? >>> en-x-simple? >>> Something else? >>> Should I register anything new with any standards organization? (If I >>> recall correctly, this was done for be-tarask?) >>> Can I reuse any existing code that would be appropriate? >>> Is it a bad idea in general and it should be just "en"? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> (PS: If you're curious what are the issues, see >>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110190 ) >>> >>> -- >>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >>> “We're living in pieces, >>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing >>> [email protected]https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >
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