Actualiteit the thing where we would-be have made a difference we chose not to. This is hardly relevant and we have precedents.
Op wo 23 nov. 2016 om 13:54 schreef Milos Rancic <[email protected]> > Gerard, why do we need to wait? Because we have so much tasks to do right > now and it's unreasonable to put more burden on us? > > On Nov 23, 2016 11:08, "Gerard Meijssen" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Hoi, > > In my opinion we should leave BCP 47 for what it is. There is no point > in including it at this time. It will become relevant once Wiktionary data > is included in Wikidata. > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > On 23 November 2016 at 09:55, MF-Warburg <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Ok. So is there some rule of thumb we could formulate about whether or > not a specific BCP 47 should be allowed for Wikidata? > >> > >> 2016-11-23 6:26 GMT+01:00 Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]>: > >>> > >>> Hoi, > >>> Yes. But the point is that our position has always been that for a > language we accept ISO-639-3 for Wikidata without a localisation effort. > For BCP 47 we have not done so and there is not the same blanket need to > accept them. When a BCP 47 needs a different date format, it is a matter of > localisation to make that happen. It is not what this do in Wikidata. > >>> Thanks, > >>> GerardM > >>> > >>> On 23 November 2016 at 01:44, Milos Rancic <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Nov 23, 2016 00:47, "MF-Warburg" <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > 2016-11-22 15:33 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic <[email protected]>: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> I don't think it's true at the moment, but imagine the next > integration: > >>>> >> > >>>> >> * A person is born on year/January/date. That's the data Wikipedia > >>>> >> should take from Wikidata. > >>>> >> * A user says "I am a German from Germany" and has that as > >>>> >> localization, instead of default Austrian version. > >>>> >> * What's the method of telling Wikidata to give German German > January > >>>> >> instead of Austrian German January inside of the infobox? > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Well, as dates in Wikidata are not stored as "5. Jänner 1980" in > the first place, that seems no problem. The infobox' code will simply > translate 1980-01-05 differently, depending on the users' language > settings. Or am I mistaken? > >>>> > >>>> That was just an example, not the best one. The point is that > Wikidata operates with the open set of words and that we could easily come > into the position to force a user to read even something completely strangr > to him or her. > >>>> > >>>> For example, the term Art Noveau/Secession and similar could easily > become a category and a difference between the two varieties. And by > reading one variety, a user could come into position not to understand that. > >>>> > >>>> I could find a lot of such potential pairs between Serbian and > Croatian, which are distant on similar level as Spanish varieties, so it's > not hard to me to imagine that keeping strict ISO 639-3 codes instead of > BCP 47 could make confusion. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Langcom mailing list > >>>> [email protected] > >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Langcom mailing list > >>> [email protected] > >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Langcom mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Langcom mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom > > > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/langcom >
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