By the way, I find it interesting that Steven mentioned that there are some
editors on Incubator currently at Wp/arn. It seems like not all the
speakers object that strongly to it that they feel they can't contribute.

2017-05-19 0:24 GMT+02:00 Maor Malul <[email protected]>:

> For Wayuunaiki speakers, GUC comes from Guajiro, also a derogatory term
> imposed by the Spaniards. Again, the definition of maturity is clear, this
> issue has been going around for years, and they prefer not to have a
> Wikipedia with a code they find derogatory...a code, for Pete's sake!
>
> I will check again with Wikimedia Chile, but I know the answer already: No
> Wikipedia in ARN.
>
>
> Sent from my HTC
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Milos Rancic" <[email protected]>
> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee" <[email protected]
> >
> Subject: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting
> Date: Fri, May 19, 2017 1:15 AM
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Maor Malul <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I find it outrageously narrow-minded that the Chileans won't accept a
> > Wikipedia in Mapudungun because they find the code offensive. So, they care
> > more about the code than having a Wikipedia? Come on..if they disagree with
> > the code, present their case to the JAC or whoever takes care of that. We
> > should not waste our resources in doing something they have refused to do
> > themselves. As a speaker of two minority languages, one of them aboriginal,
> > I can't care less about the code as long as we have the wiki, and I have
> > discussed the subject with my Wayuunaiki-speaking friends, and they dislike
> > "guc", because is a name imposed by the Spaniards, but they can live with
> > it. The code LAD is used for Ladino, but we don't use that name in the
> > language, we use Djudeo-Espanyol or simply Espanyol, and we can still live
> > with it despite the other name ignores the North African dialects.
> >
> > I oppose using movement resources to request something that is neither our
> > responsibility, nor is a mature request.
>
> One thing is using the code based on not preferred exonym, the other
> thing is forcing usage of the code based on the exonym treated as
> derogatory.
>
> JAC doesn't care about that.
>
> I suppose you have the definition of maturity.
>
> Also, may you check the issue with folk from Wikimedia Chile before replying?
>
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