Hello, I would like to thank you very much for the welcoming message, and also for the explanations and the links.
I will read through them and will also observe the discussions so that I can also give my insights hopefully soon. Thank you again, and have a great evening! Best regards, Anass On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 3:57 PM Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]> wrote: > Welcome, Anass, sorry I forgot to send a welcome email when you joined! > That's on me. > > As for this specific proposal, the discussion relates to one of the (in my > opinion) most difficult parts of the Language Proposal Policy, namely > eligibility point 3: "The language must be sufficiently unique that it > could not coexist on a more general wiki. In most cases, this excludes > regional dialects and different written forms of the same language." > This point is very much open to interpretation, and it can be difficult > for outsiders (which LangCom members will naturally be in 99% of the cases) > to judge whether or not a language could co-exist on a more general wiki; > therefore, we must try to seek outside experts to guide us in the > decision-making. > > I almost completely forgot, but I emailed an expert on Sassarese back in > June, and forgot to follow up on it with the list. I am forwarding his > answer (with my original email) to the private list now for review. Sorry I > forgot about it, it could have saved us time and trouble. > > > tir. 4. okt. 2022 kl. 15:33 skrev MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > >> Hello, >> >> in general this is correct. The "requisites for final approval" are >> listed in the Language Proposal Policy, which lists most of the steps done >> by Langcom: < >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_proposal_policy#Requisites_for_final_approval>. >> As you can see, the two requirements (test-wiki activity and interface >> translation) are not written in a hard-and-fast manner, but are open to >> interpretation - except that for the first project in a language, the >> translation of all "most-used" MediaWiki messages is required. >> Elsewhere on the page it says "at least five active users must edit that >> language regularly". A good rule of thumb is to see if the activity is >> sustained over at least several months by at least several users. Incubator >> info pages like https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/ddg give >> convenient links to two tools, for checking localisation requirements and >> wiki-activity, respectively. >> >> Also, < >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Language_committee/Handbook_(committee)> >> might be a useful walkthrough through some processes. But feel free to ask >> away if anything (else) is unclear! >> >> >> Am Di., 4. Okt. 2022 um 14:00 Uhr schrieb Anass Sedrati < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> (This is my first message to the list :) >>> >>> I hope that you are doing well. >>> >>> I would really be glad to participate and take part in the committee's >>> discussions, but I do not know what is the current procedure. My >>> understanding is that once you think a language version in the incubator >>> starts coming closer to have its own project, you discuss it in an email >>> thread. did I understand correctly? >>> >>> In case this is the procedure, are there any criteria I need to look >>> into before giving my opinion? >>> >>> Thank you in advance for your guidance and support, and I wish you all a >>> good continuation of your Sunday! >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Anass >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2022 at 11:05 AM Jon Harald Søby <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there anything we can conclude from the discussions on Meta? Despite >>>> our tardiness, the activity level for Wp/sdc has remained good with 3–5 >>>> monthly active users since March. I would hate for the activity to "die >>>> out" because we are slow in making conclusions. >>>> >>>> lør. 26. mar. 2022 kl. 13:15 skrev MF-Warburg <[email protected] >>>> >: >>>> >>>>> There's another request which will also be affected: >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Campidanese_Sardinian >>>>> >>>>> But I as well have not yet read into the issue. >>>>> >>>>> Am Sa., 26. März 2022 um 11:04 Uhr schrieb Sotiale Wiki < >>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> Although the discussion was not conducted on the RFL page, >>>>>> discussions related to Wp/sdc are in progress in Wp/src belonging to the >>>>>> same macro. Several major contributors to both projects are the same. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Logudorese_Sardinian >>>>>> >>>>>> Before we approve this, we may consider what is being discussed >>>>>> here. I got a message about this right after I sent the mail. I have not >>>>>> yet reviewed all of the claims made. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sotiale >>>>>> >>>>>> 2022년 3월 26일 (토) 오후 3:42, Sotiale Wiki <[email protected]>님이 작성: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Language committee members, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello. Happy Saturday in March. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to ask for comments on the approval of *Wp/sdc*. It >>>>>>> has been active since August 2021, and it has been 4 months(including >>>>>>> March >>>>>>> 2022) that 3 or more editors have been active[1]; 11/21 ~ 03/22: 2, 3, >>>>>>> 5, >>>>>>> 4, 4. There are about 1744 pages including templates. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Most used core messages have already been translated[2]. The request >>>>>>> has already been submitted[3]. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would like to ask for your opinion on the approval of this, thank >>>>>>> you for your consideration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>> https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/index.php?cat=0&title=Wp/sdc&wiki=incubatorwiki#editors_per_month >>>>>>> [2] https://robin.toolforge.org/?tool=codelookup&code=sdc >>>>>>> [3] >>>>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Sassarese >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards, >>>>>>> Sotiale >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 본 이메일은 Avast로 보호되는 안전한 컴퓨터에서 발송되었습니다. >>>>>>> www.avast.com >>>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >>>>>>> <#m_-7848121976014577014_m_-3207403282591227675_m_-1283881047530413614_m_-3421611876534554425_m_-2259522763157311579_m_-7339938112393814119_m_8357100699672510139_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> mvh >>>> Jon Harald Søby >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ----------------------------------------------------- >>> *Anass SEDRATI* >>> *(+46) 70 508 51 07* >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >> > > > -- > mvh > Jon Harald Søby > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > -- ----------------------------------------------------- *Anass SEDRATI* *(+46) 70 508 51 07*
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