ok. agreed. Marcin MiÅkowski wrote thus at 05:03 PM 30-01-14:
>W dniu 2014-01-30 04:14, Kumara Bhikkhu pisze: > > Of what you listed, these are rightly flagged: > > > * few in number > > * religious in nature > > * autocratic in nature, > > > Removing the 2nd and 3rd token wouldn't cause any lost of meaning. > >Well, in general, I'm skeptical about inclusion of "in nature". In many >instances, it means "in fact", which is just a matter of stress (but not >redundant or pompous at all). But there is a number of uses where it >means "by necessity" or "in essence", which argues that something >essentially or necessarily has a certain property. This is proper usage, >and your rule would conflate necessity judgments and actuality >judgments, which is simply a logical fallacy. > >Let me quote the passage from the Brown corpus: > >The men who speculate on these institutions have, for the most part, >come to at least one common conclusion: that many of the great >enterprises and associations around which our democracy is formed are in >themselves autocratic in nature, and possessed of power which can be >used to frustrate the citizen who is trying to assert his individuality >in the modern world. > >Here, by saying "autocratic", and not "autocratic in nature", one would >change the logical structure of the passage, and make the point >ambiguous. The writer wanted to say that some apparently democratic >institutions are autocratic in character, or in their real essence (so >they are autocratic necessarily, not contingently). To apply the >"correction" offered by BIG_IN_SIZE to this passage is to distort the >logical structure of the passage. > >I will probably remove 'nature' from the rule altogether. > >Regards, >Marcin > > > > kb > > > Marcin Mià kowski wrote thus at 011:33 AM 30-01-14: > >> W dniu 2014-01-29 10:35, Kumara Bhikkhu pisze: > >> > Hope this is not too greedy. > >> > > >> > <rule id="BIG_IN_SIZE" name="Big in size, etc"> > >> > <pattern> > >> > <token postag_regexp="yes" postag="JJ|JJR|JJS"><exception > >> > regexp="yes">similar|alone</exception><exception postag="VBN"/></token> > >> > <token>in</token> > >> > <token > >> > > >> > regexp="yes">size|duration|color|colour|number|shape|height|nature|length|weight</token> > >> > </pattern> > >> > <message>A more concise phrase may lose no meaning and sound more > >> > powerful.</message> > >> > <suggestion>\1</suggestion> > >> > <short>Possible redundancy</short> > >> > <example type="correct">The man is big.</example> > >> > <example type="correct">His speech was briefest.</example> > >> > <example type="correct">He's absorbed in thought.</example> > >> > <example correction="big" type="incorrect">The man is <marker>big in > >> > size</marker>.</example> > >> > <example correction="briefest" type="incorrect">His speech was > >> > <marker>briefest in duration</marker>.</example> > >> > <example correction="redder" type="incorrect">My car is <marker>redder > >> > in color</marker>.</example> > >> > <example correction="few" type="incorrect">Her friends were <marker>few > >> > in number</marker>.</example> > >> > </rule> > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Yes, this is much better but we also match: > >> > >> rich in color > >> > >> few in number > >> > >> possible in Nature, > >> > >> corresponding in number > >> > >> religious in nature > >> > >> efficient in shape > >> > >> autocratic in nature, > >> > >> equal in size > >> > >> beautiful in color, > >> > >> next in size > >> > >> Out of 16 matches on Brown corpus, the useful ones were "brown in > >> color","tawny in color", "two in number". I added the adjectives above > >> as additional exceptions and we'll see how it performs. I'm not sure > >> about 'few'. We'll probably see more matches in the nightly diff today. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Marcin > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> WatchGuard Dimension instantly turns raw network data into actionable > >> security intelligence. It gives you real-time visual feedback on key > >> security issues and trends. 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