Do you have a small test case? On 2006-07-05, at 23:47 EDT, Andrew Chandler wrote:
> Thanks - the thing is its firefox not IE doing this - plus it > happens with > the default html wrapper spit out by the laslo proxy - also the > brackets for > focus go to the button without the click - its just that they mean > nothing > until you click anywhere on the flash movie (one click only) - > after that > click hitting the enter key causes the button that was bracketed > previously > to be depress. Overall its quite depressing (sorry about the puns > and > movie references - its late and I hate unsolvable problems). > > I just find it weird that I'm the only one this happens to - > especially > since I can reproduce it on multiple machines running flash 8 & 9 > at work. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: P T Withington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:14 PM > To: Andrew Chandler > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Focus not working in firefox - I think > maybe I > figured it out > > The 'click to open' thing that IE does for EOLAS is very distinct. > You get a dialogue that says some things on the page won't work > until you > click OK. (I think it even suggests you write your congressperson > telling > them that EOLAS are stinkers. :P) This is quite different from > what you are > experiencing of just having to click on the swf object to 'unstick' > the > focus brackets. > > If you are writing your own HTML page to embed the swf into, I > suggest that you validate your HTML (see http://validator.w3.org/). > If your HTML is not valid, you will put IE into 'quirks mode' and > all bets > are off. See also http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp? > url=/library/en-us/dnie60/html/cssenhancements.asp and read about the > DOCTYPE switch, which also controls whether or not IE runs in > quirks mode. > Quirks mode is evil. It makes boatloads of ancient broken content > that > people developed only on IE work, but manages to break most new > content that > anyone is writing to the w3c standards... > > On 2006-07-05, at 21:23 EDT, Andrew Chandler wrote: > >> Yeh - testing since I wrote that pretty much confirms what you said. >> However the symptom is exactly as described for IE. By that I >> mean you >> have click ONCE ANYWHERE on the flash object laszlo creates and boom >> the button that has focus really does get its focus - by this I mean >> prior to anything else our code does succesffuly call the LzFocus >> mechanism and you see the little bracktes move over to surround the >> button we want to be >> default. Its just that page ignores any keypress until you take >> and click >> on the flash object (clicking the surrounding html page does not >> help) >> >> >> You know its not an end of the world issue but its incredibly >> frustrating because I know it SHOULD work. >> >> >> I'll keep plugging away at it....at this point I think its probably >> not a laszlo issue per-se I think it's a plugin or flash issue but >> I'm >> going to try to make a simple flash movie with one button and >> reproduce it without laszlo at all. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: P T Withington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:21 PM >> To: Andrew Chandler >> Cc: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Focus not working in firefox - I think >> maybe I figured it out >> >> embed.js and flashobject.js are basically the same, they both use >> Javascript to create the object tag dynamically rather than >> statically, which MS believes skirts the EOLAS patent. Either should >> work equally well. >> Flashobject.js has the advantage of being used by a much larger >> community so perhaps has worked around some niggling details, but I >> would be very surprised if that affected your focus issue. >> >> EOLAS has not sued anyone other than MS, to my knowledge, so no other >> browser vendor has done anything about their patent. >> >> On 2006-07-05, at 17:55 EDT, Andrew Chandler wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> This snippet talks about how IE is going to change - I found this >>> following links regarding the benefits of flashobject.js versus >>> embed.js. >>> I think >>> its possible this may be whats going on with firefox as well. >>> (which is >>> where I'm seeing it) - I'm in the process of changing some test >>> pages >>> and will let you know how it works. >>> >>> http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/12/15/internet-explorer-eolas- >>> changes-and-the >>> -flash-plugin/ >>> >>> "When using an applet, object, or embed tag to insert a plugin into >>> an HTML document, that plugin will not allow user interaction until >>> the user clicks on it. Microsoft calls this process " >>> <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/workshop/author/ >>> dhtml/ov >>> erview/activating_activex.asp> Activating an ActiveX Control's >>> Interface." >>> >>> In the case of the Flash plugin, it means that your Flash movies >>> will >>> not >>> work until a user 'activates' it first by clicking on it " >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Laszlo-user mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.openlaszlo.org/mailman/listinfo/laszlo-user >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ Laszlo-user mailing list [email protected] http://www.openlaszlo.org/mailman/listinfo/laszlo-user
