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You're not the only one that this happens to. I've observed the same
behavior in Firefox myself. I researched it some, and came to the
conclusion that this was a deliberate decision on the part of the
firefox team, though I can't remember now what led me to that
conclusion. -Jason Andrew Chandler wrote: Thanks - the thing is its firefox not IE doing this - plus it happens with the default html wrapper spit out by the laslo proxy - also the brackets for focus go to the button without the click - its just that they mean nothing until you click anywhere on the flash movie (one click only) - after that click hitting the enter key causes the button that was bracketed previously to be depress. Overall its quite depressing (sorry about the puns and movie references - its late and I hate unsolvable problems).I just find it weird that I'm the only one this happens to - especially since I can reproduce it on multiple machines running flash 8 & 9 at work. -----Original Message----- From: P T Withington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 10:14 PM To: Andrew Chandler Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Focus not working in firefox - I think maybe I figured it out The 'click to open' thing that IE does for EOLAS is very distinct. You get a dialogue that says some things on the page won't work until you click OK. (I think it even suggests you write your congressperson telling them that EOLAS are stinkers. :P) This is quite different from what you are experiencing of just having to click on the swf object to 'unstick' the focus brackets. If you are writing your own HTML page to embed the swf into, I suggest that you validate your HTML (see http://validator.w3.org/). If your HTML is not valid, you will put IE into 'quirks mode' and all bets are off. See also http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp? url="" and read about the DOCTYPE switch, which also controls whether or not IE runs in quirks mode. Quirks mode is evil. It makes boatloads of ancient broken content that people developed only on IE work, but manages to break most new content that anyone is writing to the w3c standards... On 2006-07-05, at 21:23 EDT, Andrew Chandler wrote:Yeh - testing since I wrote that pretty much confirms what you said. However the symptom is exactly as described for IE. By that I mean you have click ONCE ANYWHERE on the flash object laszlo creates and boom the button that has focus really does get its focus - by this I mean prior to anything else our code does succesffuly call the LzFocus mechanism and you see the little bracktes move over to surround the button we want to be default. Its just that page ignores any keypress until you take and click on the flash object (clicking the surrounding html page does not help) You know its not an end of the world issue but its incredibly frustrating because I know it SHOULD work. I'll keep plugging away at it....at this point I think its probably not a laszlo issue per-se I think it's a plugin or flash issue but I'm going to try to make a simple flash movie with one button and reproduce it without laszlo at all. -----Original Message----- From: P T Withington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:21 PM To: Andrew Chandler Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Laszlo-user] Focus not working in firefox - I think maybe I figured it out embed.js and flashobject.js are basically the same, they both use _javascript_ to create the object tag dynamically rather than statically, which MS believes skirts the EOLAS patent. Either should work equally well. Flashobject.js has the advantage of being used by a much larger community so perhaps has worked around some niggling details, but I would be very surprised if that affected your focus issue. EOLAS has not sued anyone other than MS, to my knowledge, so no other browser vendor has done anything about their patent. On 2006-07-05, at 17:55 EDT, Andrew Chandler wrote:This snippet talks about how IE is going to change - I found this following links regarding the benefits of flashobject.js versus embed.js. I think its possible this may be whats going on with firefox as well. (which is where I'm seeing it) - I'm in the process of changing some test pages and will let you know how it works. http://blog.deconcept.com/2005/12/15/internet-explorer-eolas- changes-and-the -flash-plugin/ "When using an applet, object, or embed tag to insert a plugin into an HTML document, that plugin will not allow user interaction until the user clicks on it. Microsoft calls this process " <http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url="" dhtml/ov erview/activating_activex.asp> Activating an ActiveX Control's Interface." In the case of the Flash plugin, it means that your Flash movies will not work until a user 'activates' it first by clicking on it " _______________________________________________ Laszlo-user mailing list [email protected] http://www.openlaszlo.org/mailman/listinfo/laszlo-user -- Jason Stafford Principal Developer Inspiration Software, Inc. The leader in visual thinking & learning InspireData(tm), the newest innovative thinking and learning tool from Inspiration Software(r), extends the proven power of visual learning to data analysis. Learn more at www.inspiration.com. 503-297-3004 Extension 119 503-297-4676 (Fax) 9400 SW Beaverton-Hillsdale Highway Suite 300 Beaverton, OR 97005-3300 |
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