On 12-02-20 09:01 AM, Matthew Revell wrote: > Hi all, > > Last week I spent some time chatting with Laura Czajkowski about the > team polls issue. I also opened a discussion on the mailing list used by > the various councils in the Ubuntu community, to better understand their > needs. > > Here's the Launchpad side: we want to remove polls from Launchpad > because they are hard to use, they are limited in their functionality > and, quite frankly, they don't justify their maintenance cost. > > Why don't we just fix them? Well, external services do a better job and > polls are a non-core feature for Launchpad. The time we have to work on > Launchpad needs to be spent elsewhere. > > At this stage, I think that even if someone came to us with a good plan > for fixing polls and they were willing to do the work, I'd be doubtful > about accepting their offer. Ultimately, the maintenance burden would > still fall to the Canonical Launchpad team. > > In reply to my email to the Ubuntu councils, Elizabeth Krumbach > explained that one main thing stands in the way of the Ubuntu community > permanently moving away from Launchpad team polls. When electing council > members, all of the relevant team's members need the opportunity to > vote. They use the CIVS service, which sends an individual link to each > eligible vote; that let's them ensure only the eligible voters can vote > and that there's one vote per person. > > The problem is this: there's no legitimate way to contact all of a > team's members with an individual email because some team members hide > their email address. > > I see two realistic ways in which we can fix this: > > * Either the Ubuntu councils make sharing your email address with the > team's admins a condition of membership and we provide admins with a > plain text download of a team's members' email addresses. In every other > circumstance, hidden email addresses remain hidden. I think this is a > quick-fix from our side but it's not really satisfactory socially. > > * Or people who hide their email addresses get a self-destructing email > forwarder, again available only to the admins of the team that is > holding a poll, that will forward email from a single email address (it > was Daniel Holbach's for the most recent Ubuntu Community Council > election) to their hidden address. That forwarder then becomes inactive > when the poll is over. The team admins can download a plain text list of > both the public addresses and these one-time forwaders in place of the > hidden addresses. This seems like more work for us but I expect would be > more socially acceptable. > > There are arguments for and against both of these. > > I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on the viability of either > of these or other approaches. >
If I understand things properly, the main requirement is for the team administrator to be able to get a list of email addresses so that they can create a private poll on the Condorcet Internet Voting System? (http://www.cs.cornell.edu/andru/civs.html) And that's in conflict with the 'Hide email address' settings. A third alternative would be to replace our complete 'Poll' implementation with a simple front-end to http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru/civs/civs_create.html Where the team admin creates the CIVS poll from Launchpad and we fill in the email addresses when forwarding the request to CIVS? Nice third party integration :-) -- Francis J. Lacoste francis.laco...@canonical.com
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