[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes:


Hi Terry,

Foolish and biased statements do not constitute any wrong doing on the
part of the person making them.  Therefore, I agree with you.

Bill


On Thu, 2 Apr 1998 06:03:55 -0500 (EST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
>Hi Jackie,
>
>There is nothing in our tradition or Constitution that requires that 
>we not
>speak plainly.  If I choose to call Al Capone a racketeer, Andrew 
>Cunanan a
>serial murderer, Clarence Thomas a perjurer, Bill Clinton an adulterer 
>it is
>idiocy to claim I am doing something wrong because they were never 
>tried and
>convicted of these things.  A perjurer is a felon who lies under oath 
>about
>a material matter.  Justice Thomas did that as you acknowledge. Why 
>should
>we not speak plainly?  If he feels he is grievously wronged he can 
>sue.
>
>How would you know you flunked the test if you did not know the 
>answers?  I
>congratulate you on 100%.
>
>>Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>
>>Oh Terry
>>
>>Then, Thomas really is only a liar in your eyes, because you feel the
>"truth" is
>>on Anita's side.  Therefore, because you believe he is a liar, you 
>feel free to
>>call him a perjuror, despite the fact he has not been charged with it 
>according
>>to what you say.  Before you jump up and down, I felt Anita was 
>telling the
>truth
>>and believed her, but that still does not give me or anyone the right 
>to
>call him
>>a perjuror if he wasn't convicted of perjury in a court of law--liar, 
>a
>>despicable person, yes, but not a perjuror.  When you discuss a case,
>despite the
>>verdict, an unbiased observer (as you put it) must stay objective and 
>try to
>>examine why that verdict was reached.  That isn't easy, I admit, for 
>most
>people
>>to do and it sure don't make for winning popularity contests : ).  So 
>really in
>>the end, what this boils down to is that you believe he is a liar and 
>that
>makes
>>it o.k. to state he is a perjuror.
>>
>>BTW, I flunked your test.  The polygraph has less accuracy in 
>detecting "truth"
>>(as you call it) with innocent people.
>>
>>Cheers
>>
>>jackief
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>>
>>> >Jackie Fellows <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Hi Terry
>>> >
>>> >Just wondered where you got your information that Thomas was a
>>> >perjuror.  I am really curious??
>>> >
>>> >jackief
>>>
>>> Really, Jackie?  It is obvious to any unbiased observer, which I am 
>not.  I
>>> have never had anything but contempt for the toady that was put in 
>charge of
>>> EEO by Reagan essentially to dismantle its operation nor for the
>>> intellectual flyweight who was unable to express the slightest 
>defense of
>>> his "natural law" philosophy.
>>> But that has nothing whatever to do with his guilt in the matter.
>>>
>>> When two people tell directly opposing stories, when the normal 
>human
>>> frailties of forgetfulness and imagination are not a factor, one 
>must choose
>>> which to believe if there is to be any judgment of truth at all.  
>It is
>>> rather easy to choose which one is most likely telling the truth 
>when one is
>>> willing to take a polygraph and the other is not even independent 
>of the
>>> results.
>>>
>>> But that is only a small part of the story.  Anita Hill had told 
>her story
>>> to others long before she was called upon to tell her story in 
>public.  She
>>> testified unwillingly.  Anita Hill had to undergo the withering 
>attack all
>>> women who have suffered from the sexual libido of men who cannot 
>control
>>> their urges. She was called a sexually-repressed man-hungry lesbian 
>all at
>>> once by the mentally-challenged Republicans on the Judiciary 
>Committee.
>>> (No, Jackie, not in those words.  There was that stuff coming in 
>over the
>>> transom as the good senator from Wyoming liked to say.)  David 
>Brock, the
>>> recently canonized convert from his former rightwing hatchetman 
>status, says
>>> everything is still all true. That even includes the silly story of 
>the
>>> pubic hair on the homework paper of a student, though the student 
>now says
>>> it was a hoax.
>>>
>>> Justice Thomas let his supporters do their work and remained 
>silent.  He
>>> refused to discuss anything, screaming only of another half-vast 
>conspiracy.
>>> His silence speaks volumes just as it does these days in his robes 
>on his
>>> throne in his kingdom.  It is an obscenity this caricature sits in 
>the seat
>>> of the magnificent Thurgood Marshall.
>>>
>>> Let me give you some homework, Jackie.  You can do it silently.  
>The test
>>> has only two questions and I will bet you or anyone else can get 
>the answers.
>>>
>>> 1.  A special prosecutor was appointed to find out which miscreants 
>leaked
>>> the news of Anita Hill that led to the Thomas-Hill hearings.  Did 
>the
>>> honorable Democratic senators offer to take a polygraph as proposed 
>by the
>>> special prosecutor so he could complete his investigation?  Why or 
>why not?
>>>
>>> 2.  A coal miner in Virginia (Roger Coleman, I think) was convicted 
>of the
>>> rape and murder of his sister-in-law and condemned to death.  He is 
>often
>>> cited as one of those most likely to be innocent.  He steadfastly 
>refused a
>>> lie detector test until the eve of his execution.  What was the 
>result of
>>> his polygraph?
>>>
>>> See how easy the test was.  Bet you got all the right answers.
>>> Best,     Terry
>>>
>>> "Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law"  - The Devil's 
>Dictionary
>>>
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>>
>>
>>--
>>In the sociology room the children learn
>>that even dreams are colored by your perspective
>>
>>I toss and turn all night.    Theresa Burns, "The Sociology Room"
>>
>>
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>Best,     Terry 
>
>"Lawyer - one trained to circumvent the law"  - The Devil's Dictionary 
>
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