"Steve Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:


I think the most significant thing about this is the change of direction,
that the research is taking, I wouldn't call it a cruel hoax more of hyped
up wishful thinking by the media, cancer is always big news and the media
likes stories on wonder drugs.

Steve


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tuesday, May 05, 1998 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: L&I A Very Cruel Hoax


>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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>Hi Ron,
>
>My point is the press releases I see tout this as a cure today, now.  Not
>one human being has taken the drug.  That will not happen for some time.
If
>it works as well in humans as is claimed in mice - a huge leap - it will
>still take a considerable period of time for just finding the proper
dosage.
>
>Phase I trials which are mainly interested in the safety of the drug and
not
>its efficacy have not even begun.  Just the paperwork for this phase will
>take many months normally followed by the Phase II and Phase III trials.
>Fast-track testing could cut down on the length and division between these
>trials but it has not been a safe bet in the past.  Fast track is drug
>parlance is not a train one would likely want to ride on.
>
>But in the meantime there are many people dying of cancer who read of a
>miracle cure.  The qualifications are buried at the end some place.
>
>>"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>>Seems to me the doctors on this list might have something to say. <Terry>
>>
>>Terry:  I am not too sure who that comment is aimed at, but I, speaking
only
>>for myself, would not classify the "Cancer Cure du Jour" as a cruel hoax.
>>The problem is that there may well never be a single " Cure for cancer".
>>There are as many cancers as there are cell types and what might cure one
>>cancer is unlikely to work for all cancers.  We seem to be doing quite
well
>>with certain types of leukemia, and some leukemias are "curable" now.  It
>>will be a long, tedious process, to "cure cancer", and in my opinion the
>>cause of cancer will first have to be discovered.  Find out what causes
>>various cell lines to start dividing very rapidly, in an uncontrolled
>>process called cancer, and then devise a strategy to selectively shut off
>>that process in ONLY that cell line.  There lies the problem. We can shut
>>down cell division very readily with many chemotherapeutic agents and
>>radiation, but how do you make these modalities attack only the cancerous
>>cells, and not destroy other actively dividing cell lines like the bone
>>marrow?  The cures that we see touted daily are usually for a very
limited,
>>specific tumor and not a universal cure for cancer.  So...not a cruel
hoax,
>>but maybe a miracle cure for a few individuals with say
>>rhabdo-lieomyosarcoma of the sternocleidomastoid.   Ron
>>
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>Best,     Terry
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