On 13/08/2011 17:49, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 13 August 2011 16:38, Martin wrote:
Are you sure?
Have you compared speed to 0.9.28? And which actions have you used for
checking speed?
Yet, at least between a 0.9.29 binary I had lying around, and 0.9.30.1
Both GTK2 ? For the opeing of a project with *m any* files?
But well yes, if you had a 0.9.29, that already had the loading
optimizations (and was faster than 0.9.28) then that could be.
Obviously the speed isn't constant. New features get added, the may take
time while loading. The idea can not be, to keep the time always
constant, or getting faster only. Then many features could never be
added (your elastic tabs, if ever done, might mean a slow down... /
though that falls under the deferred-to-idle scans).
In Laz trunk there where some speed improvements for project loading
again (IIRC)
In the days of 0.9.26 and 0.9.28 I used the GTK1 interface. At that
point LCL-GTK1 was considerably faster than the LCL-GTK2 - in the
editor, dialogs, and general screen updates.
interesting. Gtk1 does not have support for propper scrolling. So
scrolling in synedit under GTK1 is considerable slower.
Though the scroll support under gtk2 was only added quite late. So for a
long time that may have been true.
Otherwhise I can not tell much about gtk2. But then one would need to
have some fundamental info about the difference of speed of the 2 GTKs
themself.
I know LCL-GTK2 has come a long way since then.
When I say slower, in this test case I can not the following.
- Loading time of all tabs (eg: when I tested with 100 or 200 units)
You mean between gtk2 and gtk1? Well I can not speak about that.
- tab / editor screen update. The editor was "blank" for the duration
of loading
The "blank" is partly intentional. Older lazarus did add tab by tab,
updating tabs that wouldn't even be displayed. there was no point in
that. That change was made in the IDE, affecting all widgetsets.
those units. MSEide was instant with near zero screen flicker.
Very interesting. I just added the 450 univint files to a project in
mseide (though under windows, while all other tests where done under linux)
It takes 15 seconds to open (so yes it is a little faster than lazarus,
but not such massively)
My version may be a few month old....
My other concern was memory consumption. I know I have no clue as to
what Lazarus IDE everything does, but I can say that for the generate
usage of loading a project with some 5-15 units open, code navigating
here and there etc.. the memory consumption of Lazarus is by
magnitudes more than MSEide. Regarding what I was test or using in the
editor, both IDE's had the same functionality.
All I know is, when I open the ide project (mseide ide project /
whatever the projectfile is called) itself, and then try to open file,
it always prompts me for missing form files or similar...
Then again, maybe my config got screed along the way...
as for it codetools equivalent: Some thinks don't jump, but may be my
config. I found a link I just clicked, which took over 2 secs before the
mse-ide actually jumped (at least it showed a "busy" mouse pointer)
Let me just stress out: I do not mean in any way to say, that this is in
anyway something bad about mse-ide. I only observe that some of the
statements made before are not reproducible n my system. MSEide does
require time too (memory I have not analysed.)
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