> > I've browsed through the list and find that some icons are missing
> > (packages / run / among others). But I guess we could use the existing
ones
> > here. Another thing is that the icons all are 16x16 in size. There
should
> > be a 22x22 equivalent though also included. Just have a look at the
> > todolist for example to see why. Large buttons plainly need 22x22 or
else
> > it looks flimsy.
> Well I wasn't trying to extend the IDE, but to give a tool for USERS of
the
> IDE, specifically to give replacements for the standard icons that delphi
> shipped with. These are not really meant for use INSIDE the IDE, but are
> meant to be available to people coding WITH the IDE.

I have misunderstood you in that case, but why not join the effords? If we
make a good iconset for Lazarus we can ship it with Lazarus for use by
coders.

> > You are using Nuvola and CrystalSVG, ever considered Tango? I also like
the
> > naming they use. It's like a taxonomy of functionality. I would like to
> > suggest taking over the naming for our purpose and start from there. You
> > added a huge list of icons, but I would be in favor of limiting the
number.
> > Because all you get is each button having their own icon (like we do now
> > have). If we start with from functionality and work our way up I believe
we
> > have more success in unifying lazarus. We can vote per icon wether to
use
> > it in te "base" set or not.
> I had a look at Tango, I must admit I like Nuvola better, I only used
Crystal
> where nuvola didn't have something that could cleanly replace the specific
> icon I was trying to replace. One of the little perks of being the one who
> actually DOES it, is that you get to choose what gets done first, since
> Nuvola is the default icon set for OpenLab, using it means my apps will
> integrate better in the environment I work on for a living, others are
> welcome to do other sets and I am happy to help them as well but since I
was
> the one doing it and nobody had complained about the Nuvola proposal, I
went
> ahead.

Don't feel offended, but if we ship a Nuvola or CrystalSVG or Tango (or
whatever) iconset with Lazarus (for use in apps) we will run into the same
problem you just described. People like working with icons that blend into
their interface.  Therefore I would suggest developing a conststent iconset
for lazarus (could be Nuvola or whatever) and ship that. People will
appreciate the feature wich comes free (seing it's been used by Lazarus
already).
The startingpoint for the iconset should be a naming convention IMHO and go
from there.
(Mattias, could we make ideimages.pas part of the LCL so any app can link to
that?)

> I think there should be ONE set of button-icons in the IDE tree, and other
> sets available as separate downloads for those who require them, if only
> because icons are big, which becomes the default and how it's all
structured
> is up for the community to decide. I just saw a need and tried to fill it
for
> everyones benefit. I for one will be happy to be able to use the ones I
did,
> I just thought others would like to be able to use them as well.
> >
> > I would also be glad to make a wiki on this subject and make it look
> > similar to this: http://tango-project.org/Tango_Icon_Gallery
> That would be a good idea I think.

I will start on it as soon as I find some time. I will let you all know when
I get there. (Vincent: is there some easy way to upload a large amount of
images to the wiki?)

> > BTW: why does the icons need to be converted to ICO? Lazarus is quite
happy
> > with XPM. This format is also supported on all main platforms Lazarus is
> > available at (GIMP). So I see no real need it only adds to maintenance.
And
> > if you want to do it  then use the convert util from ImageMagick.
> Well the only reason I thought it had to be done was because all the OTHER
> icons in lazarus have ico versions as well, I know that xpm is well
supported
> all around but I assumed that there was a reason for this, if there isn't
> then there is no need.

No need I think.

Darius

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