On 30 Nov 2000, at 12:26, Rick Onanian wrote:
> Yes, but I just wonder how blind people can interact with a LEAF
> system...
Easily. I'm working on support in Oxygen now.
> The ones who have software probably won't be able to use it.
Not so.
> That screen-to-braille thing sounds incredibly cool.
And incredibly old. That was 20 years ago. What are they like now,
eh?
> Is there opensource blind-reading software?
Of course! brltty puts text out the serial port in a format usable
by a wide range of Braille TTY terminals; unfortunately, it
apparently needs to be compiled differently for each one. However,
it WAS designed to be tiny and small, and to run well in embedded
environments.
> Most LEAF stuff will continue in the LRP tradition of missing lots
> of libs; and such software probably takes a lot of space, too. I
> don't see blind people using reading software on LRP as practical.
It doesn't take a lot of space. Why shut out users when we don't
have to?
> David Douthitt wrote:
> > I also noticed that lynx supports (internally) finger, gopher, ftp,
> > http, and news - doesn't that make it almost a candidate for
> > "superbinary" like busybox or tinylogin?
>
> Well, for the ftp and http anyway; but just remember...the
> more functionality and convenience that's put into a LEAF
> system, the more tools somebody has who has compromised your
> firewall...
As folks have seen, my distribution isn't just a firewall :-)
However, for a firewall, I wouldn't put Lynx on it certainly - just
like I wouldn't put nmap or hunt or tcpdump on it either.
> For EVERY page in the world, or for every leaf page? There
> will be _one_ leaf page; we will decide after looking at
> submissions.
I was making a suggestion, hoping that all you web page designers
would take my suggestion into account. Is that so bad?
It sounds as if you are saying, DON'T make suggestions; keep quiet
and do your own thing. I'm sure that is not what you intended.
Let's work together and with cooperation, not competition.
> David, please...do up a sample LEAF page to best express your
> concept.
I'm actively trying to stay away from that, actually.
Perhaps other pages would be worth looking at: try http://tiny-
cobol.sourceforge.net - simple and elegant.
--
David Douthitt
UNIX Systems Administrator
HP-UX, Linux, Unixware
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