Perhaps Mike Noyes should put a statement together on
the Leaf site that we don't agree with Dave using
a visible open-source project for his own political
agenda. And then leave at that. I don't think we
should otracize Dave or try to "punish" him for his
action.
Lrp is not a commercial product where we have to be
"politically" correct to survive. We would like to
remain neutral, however, so we can attract talented
people to further our "technical" causes.
Furthermore one of the things that makes Linux great
is our individuality. As a community, we have shown
our ability to accommodate a wide range of skills,
personalities, ideologies, ... Everyone should be
welcome to contribute. The community has been wise
to pick and choose the best contributions solely on
technical basis so far. I strongly believe that
our individuality is the creative fire that has fuel
the Linux revolution. And our tolerance is what
has sustained the fire in the last 10 years.
We just need to let Dave knows that his action is
childish, serving no useful purpose other than
"alienating" his collegues and peers.
Just my $0.05.
Bao
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Steven Peck
> Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:14 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: OT Re: [Leaf-devel] linuxrouter.org
>
>
> I like this idea.
>
> LRP/LEAF has an international audience so who cares if you
> are a registered
> foreign agent. It's Open Source.
>
> I will be out tonight, but can look at anything that is
> circulated and add
> my thoughts either late tonight or evening tommorrow.
>
> ----------------------------------------------
> Steven Peck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sacramento, CA http://leaf.blkmtn.org
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Morgan Reed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 6:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: OT Re: [Leaf-devel] linuxrouter.org
> >
> >
> > I have read many good suggestions here, but one I have not
> > seen mentioned is
> > an open letter, signed by all (r as many as possible) of the
> > LEAF-dev team,
> > expressing our sorrow and disagreement with Dave's decision.
> > We would then
> > post this letter for the general LRP list.
> >
> > I think that would be enough. If it ever becomes an issue in
> > the future, a
> > search of geocrawler will show the sentiment, but I don't
> > think we will be
> > causing as big a firestorm as we would if we moved to sever
> links etc.
> >
> > We are, in essence, engaged in a PR campaign for LRP, and as
> > we saw with the
> > Linux Gazette article, poorly a informed press leads to
> > poorly informed
> > articles. Since Dave C has not put forth the kind of effort
> > as seen by Rick
> > in lrp.c0wz, Charles in EigerStein+, DD in Oxygen, Mike in
> > LEAF and the
> > countless hours that others have put into LRP, it would be a
> > travesty if a
> > disagreement over a clearly wrong, and I personally feel an
> > immoral stance
> > by Dave lead to a loss of recognition in the work everyone else has
> > provided.
> >
> > A letter can help us, as the "face" of LRP, put a layer of
> separation
> > between ourselves and Dave's misguided political message.
> > Granted, Dave has
> > done a lot of work on LRP, but more importantly happens to
> > own the most
> > obvious URL. We need to clarify that his ownership of one
> > popular URL does
> > not confer any extra status on his views. A single, open
> > letter should do
> > that.
> >
> > In order to have full disclosure, I should step out of the
> > shadows a bit on
> > this. As many of you may know, I actually work in Washington
> > DC, and used to
> > work for Congress. I am happy to answer any and all
> > questions about "how it
> > works" "are their any conspiracies" "why do they spend all
> > my/our money"
> > "why do foreigners get all my tax money" "why are all
> > politicians corrupt"
> > and all that. Please note a certain level of sarcasm in
> the previous
> > statements, but not in my willingness to answer.
> >
> > By the same token, the level of knowledge many of you bring
> > to Linux, I
> > bring to issues of Government Relations. If you really care,
> > run a google
> > search on Morgan W Reed III. Yes, I am a registered foreign agent.
> >
> >
> > Morgan Reed
>
> >
>
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