OK, some additional thoughts ...
1. Personally, I think the world would be a better place if Dave's current
version of the LRP home page was seen by a very large audience. His dodgy
description of the site interruption on the LRP lists -- it is hardly true
that "The servers will be down all of Monday" given the Home Page we have
all seen -- suggests to me that he wanted to have his cake and eat it too.
Creating situations where his views are widely known and associated with him
seems like a very reasonable thing to do.
2. Including his sponsors as part of that audience would seem to me to be a
good thing as well. Preferably without any footnotes from us; his words
really do speak for themselves, very clearly. Alas, it's probably too late
in the day to suggest that they take a look at the Web site before it
returns to normal.
3. As to us ... while I suspect we could easily forge a general consensus, I
also think it would get bogged down in details. For instance, while Mike and
I surely agree about a lot, I find myself uncomfortable with his equating
"anarchists" to people who adopt violent means of protest (Scott's use of
"violent anarchism" is a good bit more careful). This is only an example,
but it is a real example of the kind of problem we would have agreeing to a
shared text.
4. Anyway, our concern should not be with Dave's politics. At least in a
First Amendment sense, he's entitled to them ... and he does *own* the
linuxrouter.org site, after all. Our concern as a group should be about the
continued viability of LEAF ... in many ways, this sort of thing is *why* we
started LEAF in the first place ... and I very much doubt that Dave's
actions will hurt us one whit.
5. Right now, I'm not quite decided what I will do tomorrow ... but right
now, I'm leaning toward posting a "goodbye" message inviting people who want
me to see their postings to turn to one of the LEAF lists. No discussion of
*why* I am leaving, just, in effect, a "forwarding address". If enough of us
do something of that sort, always VERY politely, it will be noticed.
6. More generally, I think each of us should look to our own feelings here
and do what seems right to him (or her - are there any "hers" here?). LEAF
has done just fine technically with this sort of decentralized decision
making, and I thimk it can handle today's events equally well in that fashion.
7. I doubt we should politicize the LEAF site itself by using it in any
response to Dave's action.
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------------------------------------"Never tell me the odds!"---
Ray Olszewski -- Han Solo
Palo Alto, CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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