30.10.2010 22:44, KP Kirchdoerfer пишет: > Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2010, 19:56:41 schrieb Andrew: >> 30.10.2010 20:37, KP Kirchdoerfer пишет: >>> Am Samstag, 30. Oktober 2010, 19:19:03 schrieb Andrew: >>>> 30.10.2010 19:45, KP Kirchdoerfer пишет: >>>>> What about the kernel?? >>>>> kp >>>> IMHO we need to provide different kernels; one - for legacy i486 or >>>> Geode (or even separate kernels), and one - with SMP, more than 4GB >>>> memory support (at least - for PAE enabling, for NX bit) for PentiumII >>>> or higher. >>> I agree, but IMHO it's a long/middle term goal (beta2 or 3). >>> To get a beta 1 done I think a generic kernel based on the 486 processor >>> will be enough for a start (the Bering-uClibc series worked out well, >>> with only one kernel - no objection, if we improve it during the release >>> cycle). >>> >>> I believe the main target for beta1 is to detect remaining bugs and to >>> provide a proof-of-concept (or slightly more - I run Bering-uClibc4 for >>> weeks in production). >>> >>> Different kernels are nice-to-have, but IMHO it requires a lot more work, >>> thoughts and testing - and esp. for testing, users who started to use >>> Bering- uClibc4 (with the first beta). >>> >>> kp >> It isn't too hard to built some packages for different kernel arch >> without deep config cleaning (just one like current i686 with SMP but >> possible with 64GB RAM support - for PAE and dependent NX bit support, >> and one generic i486 w/o SMP - like your), later we can do clean-up. 1st >> kernel will be very suitable for ISPs (like as own company), and 2nd >> kernel - for small devices like Alix board. I think that enough ISPs >> needed something like this - and some of them tried to develop their own >> distro (for ex., GlobalOS by nuclearcat - which isn't modular, is huge >> comparable to Bering-uClibc, has no documentation except one very tine >> howto page + forum thread, and it's configs are poor). >> >> Also, i686 SMP kernel is tested and looks stable (i use it under enough >> heavy loads - after GCC update to 4.4.5 no troubles noticed), i486 - >> even still not assembled. > Andrew; > > no doubt that different kernels and esp. a fully-686-SMP-"whatever"-optimized > one are a huge benefit. I also like the Geode enhancements for the Alix system > I use. > > I don't know how easy it'll be to build different kernels (and related > packages) with buildtool yet and how to provide, just never done that before. > IMHO it isn't so hard. It just requires modification of EXTRAVERSION in kernel Makefile + config replacement before building for each arch; + modify modules path for initrd and moddb (make two packages, like for v3.x different versions). I'll try this tomorrow. > I also understand that your 686 kernel seems as well tested as the geode one. > > My main point is that we should start with a kernel for beta1, that anyone can > use, regardless the processor he runs LEAF - the most common denominator. > And to walk from there to more special kernels later. > > That way the user base, who can testdrive beta1 would be as great as possible. > A beta1 that just runs out of the box for a 686 processor sounds to me to > unnecessarily restrict the possible user base. > > kp Providing generic i486 non-SMP version of distro, we'll also reduce users base, especially qualified users like ISP system administrators.
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