On Dec 30, 2011, at 10:57 AM, Rob Seaman wrote:

> Clocks worldwide have always kept time-of-day.  Astronomers are the canaries 
> in the coal mine in this situation.  That astronomers will incur great 
> expense and require great effort to fix what ain't broke *does not* imply 
> that everybody else is somehow off the hook.

clocks around the world have kinda kept time-of-day.  This is an old debate.  
These days, clocks are set to what the national authorities say.  The actual 
relation to local sun doesn't matter, so long as midnight is dark and noon is 
light in local time.  The "time of day" that is kept is currently just an 
approximation of a time at an idealized spot somewhere nearish to the location 
of the clock.

> It is this unprecedented proposal to move away from time-of-day that is 
> demanding everybody - not just astronomers - go to inordinate lengths.

Dropping leap seconds will still keep the time of day approximately the same 
for quite some time.  This approximation may screw things up that are fine now, 
and fix some things that are brokenish now.  We won't know until we throw the 
switch, and once thrown, it may be hard to unthrow.  It won't affect most 
things, but it remains to be seen how the actual impact of the things it does 
touch...

> Also "sounds like" is not a coherent engineering plan.  No community - not 
> even the atomic timekeepers themselves - have invested appropriate resources 
> in investigating the implications of and mitigation required by this proposal.

I tend to agree, even though this is an outcome that would make my life 
easier... :)

Warner

> Rob Seaman
> National Optical Astronomy Observatory
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> 
> On Dec 30, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Peter Vince wrote:
> 
>> It sounds like the astronomical community have the systems in place to deal 
>> with the erratic rotation of our planet, can they not just leave the rest of 
>> us to have a simple timescale - save us all going to inordinate lengths and 
>> expense?
>> 
>> Peter Vince
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